census help please

[zowster]

i am looking for william perry born around 1836 and his wife betsey born about 1840. from 1871 they can be found in church gresley derbyshire. William nd Betsey both put essex as their birthplace (Broxstead i think it says), i cannot find them before 1871 in 1871 they have children elizabeth, willliam, emily, james and henry. i can find no marriage either, can anyone plese help me.

                 Sharon

[Necromancer]

From the 1871, the 3 older kids were born in Brownhill Staffs.

Betsey born Thaxted.

might help when working backwards .... 

[zowster]

i had spotted that but it hasn't helped so far i just cannot find them anywhere.

             Sharon

[Necromancer]

1861 - RG9/1974; Folio: 91; Page: 30 - Ogley Hay, Lichfield District
Burntwood Road

William Perry 26  (Lodger) Head Coal Miner born Essex, Brockstone
Betsey Perry 21  Wife Essex, Thackstead [sic]
William Perry 2  son Walsall Wood, Staffs
Ellen Perry 1 Mo  dau Ogley Hay

[Necromancer]

I wonder if they married after the kids were born - tis Staffs, after the 1861 census

Marriages Dec 1861 
 
Giliver    William        Walsall    vol 6b   page 811    
Perry    William         do do do    
Stevenes    Mary         do   
WINSPER    Betsey         do

[zowster]

This is so fantastic thank you so much for your help past master

[Ecneps]

and Church Gresley is in Staffordshire, according to the census  

RG 9  Piece 1974 Folio 91  Page 30      
5 Row, Burntwood Road, Ogley Hay, Staffordshire

PERRY
William     head  26   Coal Miner    Brookstone Essex
Betsy    wife     21                          Thackstead Essex  
William    son    2                           Walsall Wood  Staffordshire  
Ellen    dau   1 month                 Ogley Hay  Staffordshire


Barbara

[Ecneps]

Sorry, don't know how that posted after I saw your replies 

[Necromancer]

I wonder if Wm's PoB is Broxted - mashed into what we've seen in 1861/71 ?

Actually, looking at it - 1871 IS Broxted !


If so, most of the Dunmow area 1851 Cenus is missing - includes Thaxted !

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=dunmow&txtfirstdate=1851&txtlastdate=1851&txtrestriction=ho&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=29&image1.y=10

But if it is Broxted, theres a good candidate for Wm Perry in 1841 ... but no sign of a Winsper  ..... so put that marriage on the back-burner