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Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« on: Tuesday 08 September 09 19:37 BST (UK) »
Hello  ;D,

Can someone provide information on Lymiecleuch.  Where is this?  Photos? Was it a farm? What coal mine was close by?

I have my GGGgrandfather listed living there with his wife Hannah Bell in 1841 with their children (my GGgrandfather - George who emigrated to Canada in 1852):

Address: Lymiecleugh
Surname  First name  Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   

GRAHAM   William          M   35      Coal Miner    Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Hannah         F   35                           Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   James           M   15      Coal Miner    Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Isabella         F   12                          Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Adam            M   10                          Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   John              M   8                            Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Margaret       F   6                             Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   George         M   1                             Dumfries-shire 

Also trying to find out how they came to Canada -- what ship in 1852?  Any assistance would greatly be appreciated.  If you need any census look-ups in Ontario I can help.     
   
             
Graham:  Westerkirk, Hutton & Corrie, Canonbie
(5th GGGGG)William Graham & Agnes Byers
(4th GGGG)James Graham & Isabella Borthwick
(3rd GGG)William Graham & Hannah Bell
(GG)Margaret Hogan, 1860 Mhow, India, Hoggan -- County Down, Ireland

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 21:31 BST (UK) »
this place was near rowanburn and langholm there used to be coal mining in canonbie  csc
DUMFRIES. KERR,DICKSON,BELL,HETHERINGTON,HILL
CUMBERLAND, CHARLTON,YOUNG,SPARKS,HEWITT,IRELAND. 
ORKNEY,CURSITER,DREVER,PEACE,COOPER,    
FAIR ISLE, MALCOLMSON,LESLIE.

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 21:50 BST (UK) »
If you google lymiecleugh you get a lot of info

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Dumfriesshire: Bell, Kerr, Dickson, Hetherington
Orkney: Cursiter, Peace, Drever, Cooper, Paterson, Brock, Leslie, Malcomson, Miller, Scott
Cumberland: Charlton, Young

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 September 13 20:27 BST (UK) »
hello
i live at lymiecleuch and only too willing to give you any information you require
lymiecleuch is a remote hill farm of 4500 acres
a stunningly beautiful place --completely unspoilt and a truly peaceful place


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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 September 13 01:55 BST (UK) »
Scotartist -- you're the best! thank you for posting the photo -- yes, beautiful, I would love to go to Scotland one day, particularly Lymiecleuch.
Graham:  Westerkirk, Hutton & Corrie, Canonbie
(5th GGGGG)William Graham & Agnes Byers
(4th GGGG)James Graham & Isabella Borthwick
(3rd GGG)William Graham & Hannah Bell
(GG)Margaret Hogan, 1860 Mhow, India, Hoggan -- County Down, Ireland

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 September 13 08:55 BST (UK) »
hi thanks --my name is leslie --will i have a look at the local kirkyard and see if there are any headstone in the graveyard with Bell about the dates you mention???
The Bells also lived at the Wisp which is another house on Lymiecleuch --not just a ruin --im led to believe
attached is a photograph of our house Lymiecleuch --the same one they lived in all that time ago
Like us they will have farmed cheviot sheep
Lymiecleuch has a very very long history andhas had folk living and farming here in one form or another since at least the Iron age --just along the road is signs of this we see every day --
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Rosemary and I are very well known Scottish Artists --we paint shooting fishing and rural art
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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 September 13 09:04 BST (UK) »
if you give us the surnames etc we will look at the kirkyard and take photographs for you of any headstones we find
i will also look at the parish records for Teviothead Kirk and copy the records if I knew names etc
very best regards
Leslie

you ask where Lymiecleuch is
if you look at a map of the Scottish Borders

look between Hawick and Langholm --find Teviothead
south west of Teviothead you will see Lymiecleuch on a detailed map --we are neat Carlenrig a very famous place in Borders history where the hung Johnny Armstong from growing trees

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 September 13 17:34 BST (UK) »
Here's my family who lived in Lymiecleuch:

Address: Lymiecleugh
Surname  First name  Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   
GRAHAM   William          M   35      Coal Miner    Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Hannah         F   35                           Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   James           M   15      Coal Miner    Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Isabella         F   12                          Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Adam            M   10                          Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   John              M   8                            Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   Margaret       F   6                             Dumfries-shire       
GRAHAM   George         M   1                             Dumfries-shire

Hannah Graham was Hannah Bell (her father was Adam Bell (1771) and her mother was Mary Armstrong (1773)) and I actually have a huge ancestry chart that myself and cousins have worked on over the past few years.  William and Hannah and family migrated to Canada, I believe in 1852.  I'm curious to find out what made them leave Scotland, just a better life? or were times tough there.  I've had no luck in figuring out how they traveled to Canada, looking at ships passenger lists has been not successful, partly because I don't know whether they would have taken a ship to the east coast of Canada or whether they would have traveled to the US and then to Canada.

We've only been able to trace back to William Graham (1743) and Agnes Byers (1741).

Funny you should mention the Armstrong family I also have Armstrong's, Byers (Byres),  in our family and Borthwick's.  Any information that you can pass along would be so appreciated.  I think Lymiecleuch is beautiful, it reminds me so much of northern Ontario, Canada.
 
Graham:  Westerkirk, Hutton & Corrie, Canonbie
(5th GGGGG)William Graham & Agnes Byers
(4th GGGG)James Graham & Isabella Borthwick
(3rd GGG)William Graham & Hannah Bell
(GG)Margaret Hogan, 1860 Mhow, India, Hoggan -- County Down, Ireland

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Re: Lymiecleuch (Limiecleuch, Lymiecleugh)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 September 13 17:43 BST (UK) »
I was just looking at my tree information for Hannah Bell's parents I noticed there is a John Armstrong:

Adam Bell 1771-1851 (my GGG-Grandmother's father) married Mary Armstrong (1773-1838). 

Mary's brother and sister's were:

Jean Armstrong (1760-   )
William Armstrong (1764-   )
Isabella Armstrong (1767-   ) married to Williem Wright

Mary's father was John Armstrong (1734-   ) who was married to Nicolas Jardine (1738-   )
Graham:  Westerkirk, Hutton & Corrie, Canonbie
(5th GGGGG)William Graham & Agnes Byers
(4th GGGG)James Graham & Isabella Borthwick
(3rd GGG)William Graham & Hannah Bell
(GG)Margaret Hogan, 1860 Mhow, India, Hoggan -- County Down, Ireland