David Lloyd born 1831 Newtown info

[Gadget]

Tis odd, Skewy.

I would have thought that a tailor would have needed an apprenticeship.

Maybe he didn't know his father's name and just made it up for the marriage - some of my ancestors did that 


Gadget

PS - How old does he admit to on the marriage cert, Jen?

[skewbald]

Worked on Florence born 1870 and found this for 1871.

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Although it says Daniel, on the form it is David, a Tailor.

Skewy.

[skewbald]

In 1861 Mary is sister in law staying with William Thomas, in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.
She has with her children Robert 3 and Mary J 1. David is not with them.

Skewy.

[Gadget]

So when did they marry?  Jen said 1875 

Can you give the census refs, Skewy - year code, piece no, folio, page, please. It makes it easier to follow through.


Gadget

[skewbald]

Hi Gadget, the marriage is 1875. 

But seems they maybe lived as husband and wife before.

Try this for 1871,  Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3100; Folio: 86; Page: 30; GSU roll: 839571.

Off for our Anniversary lunch. Will look back later. 
 
Skewy.

[Aussie Jen]

Sorry had visitor.

Davids age on certificate is 44yrs,   10 Aug 1895 - tailor (bachelor)
Mary Boulter 39yrs (spinster)

Davids death certificate  -  1895   qtr J   6d   pg53 
Died20 June 1895   aged 64yrs  in Birmingham, UK

[skewbald]

So the occupation of Tailor matches the census returns we found.

1891 - RG12/2378/23 p13.

1881 - RG11/2976/114 p 21

1871 - RG10/3100/86 p 30

1861 - Mary Lloyd and children Robert and Mary J -  RG9/2077/57 p 9

I cannot see a David in 1861 unless it was him as the sailor. Did they carry tailors onboard Navy vessels back then?


Skewy

[Gadget]

Hi Skewy

I was wondering if he learnt his trade while he was a sailor - but why would he be in London 

Also, a farmer's son becoming a sailor/tailor is not that usual is it 



Gadget

[skewbald]

Well if my father was a rich farmer I'd not become a tailor, but if you were not the eldest son, might not be enough work to enable him to stay on. I know the Navy had people who could sew onboard, for sails etc, but not sure you would call the tailors. Maybe the enumerator missheard the occupation.
my G-granfather was a tailor in Spondon Derbyshire, and Beeston Nottinghamshire, but learned his trade in Leeds.
Saying lodger at the workhouse makes it sound more like an old version of the YMCA than a workhouse as I know them as well.
The actual form says it is a Lodging House as well, so I'll go with that. However there are about four other Tailors there, but no other Sailors, so could be a slip of the pen, but might be something we will never know for sure.

Skewy.