Neilan, Gerald and Anthony, Ballyglada, Roscommon

[AaronGray]

If anyone would have any ideas about surviving descendents (without over-stepping any bounds of privacy), I'm all ears...

[johnny_doyle]

FYI, there are several threads re Gerald Neilan on the Great War Forum

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=179917&hl=neilan

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=164888&hl=neilan

Re tracing family, there is no family tree on Ancestry.

Arthur J Neilan (and an Annie Neilan) were still living in Mount Harold in 1939/40.

[myluck!]

According to the 1911 census Eva stated she had 12 children of whom 8 were still living;
I therefore deduce that the children of
John NEILAN (bc1845 died possibly 1903 Roscommon Oct-Dec V3 P203)and
Eva KELLY (bc 1855 died possibly Aug 10 1930 Dublin North Jul-Sep V2 P199)are,
subject to verification, the following:
1.   John Alexander
             b. Apr 30 1877 (Civil Reference: Roscommon 1877 V8 P392)
             m. Sybil Stuart CORBETT in 1907 in Durham (Houghton le Spring District) 3 children
             d. 1947 Seaham, Co. Durham
2.   Anne
             b. Dec 10 1878 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Oct-Dec 1878 V3 P314)
             d. after 1959 as named in Alan’s will May 05 1961
3.   Valentine/Eveleen
             b. Feb 13 1880 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Jan-Mar 1880 V3 P352)
             d. he possibly before 1911 as fourth child who had died prior to 1911 census
4.   Gerald Aloysius
             b. 1881 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Apr-Jun 1881 V3 P353)
             d. Apr 24 1916 of Seaton View, New Seaham, Co. Durham  according to his will
5.   George Patrick
             b. 1883 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Apr-Jun 1883 V3 P317)
             d. 1885 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Jan-Mar 1885 V3 P270)
6.   Charles James
             b. 1886 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Oct-Dec 1886 V3 P268)
             m. Dorothy Forster SMITH 1928 possible 3 children
             d. Sep 10 1952 of Brackloon, Dawdon, Seaham, Co. Durham according to his will
7.   Allen/Alan Joseph
             b. 1887 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Oct-Dec 1887 V3 P259)
             d. Jan 09 1959 of 17 Tanfield Street, Leeds; died at Pinderfields Hospital
8.   Mary Geraldine
             b. 1890 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Apr-Jun 1890 V3 P281)
             d. after 1911: possibly 1919 Jan-Mar Dublin South V2 P782
9.   Eva Mary (Evelyn)
             b. 1892 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Jul-Sep 1892 V3 P250)
             m. 1919 William HARRISS Eastingham Durham; no obvious children on online records
             d. after 1959 as named in Alan’s will: possibly 1964 in Kensington, London
10.   Arthur James
             b. 1895 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Apr-Jun 1895 V3 P259)
             d. after 1939: possibly Nov 24 1944 Oct-Dec 1944 Dublin South V2 P197
11.   Leo Kelly
             b. 1899 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Jul-Sep 1899 V3 P241)
             d. Jul 15 1905 (Civil Reference: Dublin South Jul-Sep 1905 V2 P430)
12.   Elizabeth (Elsie) Teresa
             b. 1902 (Civil Reference: Roscommon Apr-Jun 1902 V3 P259)
             d. Mar 23 or 28 1908 (Civil Reference: Dublin South Apr-Jun 1908 V2 P503)

There is an A. Neilan of 4 Mount Herald Tce, Harold’s Cross named
in the The Weekly Irish Times, Sinn Fein Handbook Easter 1916
I believe that this refers to Arthur

Anthony - I cannot locate a birth or death and I believe that the reference here is perhaps an error

modified to include dates of death from gravestone link
Thanks johnny_doyle

[johnny_doyle]

the deaths of Anne, Elsie, Leo and Arthur are all listed on the gravestone as well as Gerald

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=37603704&PIpi=65586818

[myluck!]

Reference was made at the start of this topic to Neilans' first cousin Dr. Luke DILLON

The connection to Gerald NEILAN is that his Aunt, Maria NEILAN, married Charles Blake DILLON who was from a well known Roscommon family Details of DILLON family

Dr. Luke Gerald DILLON which has links to the present family


On Eva Kelly's side; her parents were John KELLY and Maria O'CONOR; I believe that the Dewar name shown on the marriage record on Irish Genealogy is a transcript error. The witnesses at Eva's marriage were her sister and her husband to be Alice KELLY and Thomas SHEIL; note typo again of RELLY when they married in 1880! Thomas was a Justice of the Peace in Roscommon and is shown in Thoms and Slater directories. They had at least 7 children; Thomas died in 1896; I found no record for Alice's death. Three of their boys are in boarding school in Castleknock in 1901 but I can only find two into adulthood - Cecil Patrick b.1881 d.1950 Cheshire unmarried; his will refers to his elder brother Thomas John b. Dec 16 1880 a retired bank manager.
Eva's brother John married Julia BURKE in 1880 and remained in Essex Lawn; he died c1894; Julia on 1901 census and Julia on 1911 census
Son George Alexander is a Lieut AVC in Aldershot in 1911 when his sister Gertrude married

[johnny_doyle]

George Alexander Kelly finished WW1 as a Major and WW2 as a Colonel(temporary Brigadier). Retired in 1947 and allowed to use the rank Brigadier.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/38152/supplements/6071/page.pdf

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=54418434

[tessa.williams]

Reference J. C. Neilan:

I own 2 maps which belonged to J.C Neilan, which I have owned for about 18 years.

If anyone is interested in contacting me about these, please ring Mervyn on: (*) or (*), because I am interested in knowing more about J. C. Neilan's history, & am happy to share any information that I have.

Thank you very much.

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[tessa.williams]

I didn't realise it would remove the numbers... Please email me & I'll send them to you.

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