German Pork Butchers in Britain

[Berlin-Bob]

Calling all German Pork Butcher fans !

A new addition to the Database ....
See Topic: DBSIG: German Pork Butchers in Britain - who can change it ??
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=665952.msg5296832#msg5296832

Enjoy
Bob

[penstemon5]

Hi, I have just come across this forum and wonder if anyone has heard of Andrew Raap, pork butcher, who was recorded on the 1861 census in Glasgow, born in Alphinstart (Altenstadt??) in Germany.
He isn't on the 1851 census so presume he came over in  between those dates.

[SwissGill]

I have an Andrew Raab (which I think is how the German name would be spelt.) The Germans and the Swiss have a way of pronouncing the "b" as a "p" sometimes.

This Andrew Raab was a butcher and came to live in Whitegate, near to where I lived in Sandiway. His children were born in Scotland, his wife was Susan. Andrew would be "Andreas" in German.

I will have a "look see"

Gill

[penstemon5]

Thanks. I see you also have interests in Northwhich. Andrew Raab/p was recorded in the 1871 census as living with Susan (nee Gunn) and his 3 children in Over, Cheshire working as butcher at Bradford Mill.

[SwissGill]

Hi

Cannot help much.

Bradford Mill is actually Bradford Mill Farm. I looked at the census entries before and after the one showing Andrew Raab and his Family and saw that there were a lot of salt mine workers living at Bradford Mill Farm, a certain amount from Germany. Hermann Eugene Falk from Germany, Salt Mine Proprietor recruited a number of men from Germany (and elsewhere). He erected cottages to house them in the Over area.

I know Andrew's occupation is noted as butcher but maybe this was his initial occupation.

If you look at page 73 of the PDF below, you can read about it:

http://www.tonybostock.com/winsford.pdf

There are a number of Trees on Ancestry from which I gather that Annie Francis, Born Glasgow, emigrated to Brisbane, Queensland as did her sister Margaret Born 11th June 1868 in Paisley. She married Andrew Stewart and died 4th October in Brisbane.

Andrew Raab Born 1867 married Alice Edwards 1892 in Liverpool.

Gill

[SwissGill]

A little more news:

Manchester Evening News 03 September 1875

A fatal accident occurred at a Liverpool Sugar Warehouse of Messrs. Henry Tate and Sons, Love Lane, Liverpool. A man named Andrew Raab, employed as a labourer on the premises, fell from No.3 room into the cellar, and was taken upin an insensible condition and conveyed to the Northern Hospital. He sustained a fracture of the skull, a fracutre of the ribs, and other internal injuries. He died the same night, never having spoken from the time he was admitted. The deceased was 46 years of Age, and resided at 44, Bevington Bush. He leavea a widow and three children. An inquest will be held today.

[0113vanny]

what a story, how sad.

[penstemon5]

Swiss Gill,
That is amazing. You have made my day. This is indeed my husbands great grandfather. I couldn't find his death in the statutory register but found that he was buried in the catholic cemetery in Liverpool in 1875. I had no idea about this accident, though the birth certificates of his children had him down as a sugar house labourer.
How sad. He had 3 sets of twins and 4 of the children and his wife died within weeks of each other...and now this.
Please tell me how you came across such a pertinent article. What sort of search did you do to find it. It's amazing!  Thank you so very much.

[penstemon5]

Swiss Gill,
In my excitement I gave you false info. It was his son Andrew, one of his 3 children who had the twins.
I am still reeling from your revelation about Andrew senior.