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Irish ancestors move to London
« on: Wednesday 30 September 09 20:25 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am totally new to Irish ancestry - have just discovered that my 3x great grandparents were Irish. They were:

John Driscoll 1833 Ireland
Ellen 1836 Possibly Cork, Ireland

They moved to the east end of London - Poplar - I would estimate in the 1850s (before May 1858) and had lots of children there. I wondered what the best way is to trace them back to Ireland or perhaps some record of them arriving in England?

I think John's mum and dad were Patrick and Ellen...

As I say any advice would be useful as i dont know anything about Irish records

Thanks
Alison
Surname interests:<br />Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin, <br /><br />Area interests:<br />West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield<br />Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath<br />Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull, <br />Nottinghamshire: Worksop<br />erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 20:35 BST (UK) »
Do you have John and Ellen in any census?
Their place of birth may be mentioned.
Were they Catholic or Protestant?  I ask because Protestant marriages in Ireland were recorded from 1845.
Other BMDs were not registered until 1864 [I think!]
I am not aware of any passenger records from Ireland to England.
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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 21:07 BST (UK) »
Have you seen the marriage for John Driscoll and Ellen Shea, June 1858, Poplar 1c 1080?
This is to be found in FreeBMD.
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Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 21:11 BST (UK) »
Ireland was part of the U.K. and records weren't (and still aren't) kept for people travelling between Ireland and England, Wales, Scotland.
Driscroll is a very common surname in Cork but found in other counties as well. If you trace John and Ellen in each possible English census record you may get a clue (1911 census seems to be quite good at giving an Irish birthplace in many cases).
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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 21:16 BST (UK) »
Hi, thanks for your replies.
Yes I do have the marriage and yes I have them in every census...apart from 1901 although i dont know if theyre still living by then - but il go and have a look now - thanks

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Surname interests:<br />Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin, <br /><br />Area interests:<br />West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield<br />Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath<br />Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull, <br />Nottinghamshire: Worksop<br />erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 21:19 BST (UK) »
YESSS!!! Got her in 1911!
It WAS cork - cape clear

Now where's me map?


Looks like john had died...
thanks

Alison
Surname interests:<br />Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin, <br /><br />Area interests:<br />West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield<br />Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath<br />Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull, <br />Nottinghamshire: Worksop<br />erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 October 09 15:37 BST (UK) »
Have you found this yet,is it just coincidence with a population of 120?
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Re: Irish ancestors move to London
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 October 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
yes thanks - ive contacted them - waiting for a reply


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Surname interests:<br />Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin, <br /><br />Area interests:<br />West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield<br />Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath<br />Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull, <br />Nottinghamshire: Worksop<br />erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor
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