Dean/ Needham in 1841

[brolga]

yes, German's father was David who was also a labourer.
(As confirmation, his death certificate also lists David.)

[ricky1]

1841

David Dean 50 ag lab born in county
Mary      "     50                   "
Lydia      "     15                  "
Mary       "      14                 "
Joseph    "      11 ?              "

living at Ireton Kirk, Wirksworth, Derbyshire
H0107/ 198/ 1
folio 13
page 21

just wondering if the one living with John and Sarah Dean that I gave earlier is the correct one living with relies

ricky

[brolga]

Ricky:

According to IGI, John & Sarah had a son German bapt in 1827.
Unusual as it is, it was a common family name for the Kirk Ireton Deans.

[ricky1]

Ricky:

According to IGI, John & Sarah had a son German bapt in 1827.
Unusual as it is, it was a common family name for the Kirk Ireton Deans.

well that b*ggered my theory then

ricky

[ricky1]

The one on the 1841 I gave living at Bradley might be him then

Jonathon Marpee? 38 farmer born in county
William           "       50     "            "
Ann Marley?            22? F S            "
Thomas Stafford?   22?  M S           "
German Dean          20   M S           "
William Farce?        15    M S            "
Jacob Lamb?           14   M S             "

living at Bradley, Appletree, Ashbourne, Derbyshire

H0107/ 179/11a
folio 6
page 6

on the 1841 David and Mary Dean and family came under the Ashbourne reg district

regards
ricky

[brolga]

At least, consistent with all else that is known.
Thanks.

[bcockertoo]

I am researching the Leedham family and I'm wondering if Elizabeth's name is Leedham not Needham. The 1861 information of fathers name and her birth date and place supports this. Also from the marriage certificate the fact that they were living in Windley where other Leedhams were living and Elizabeth had a sister Millicent.

Barbara


The marriage certificate has arrived.
Thomas Needham was a labourer.
German & Elizabeth were living in Windley at the time of their marriage in Duffield.
This was wirtnessed by Millicent Needham & Joseph Lee, if those names help.

[spendlove]

Hi,

The following births took place at All Saints Turnditch Derbyshire, all are the Children of Thomas & Ann LEEDHAM:-

Benjamin 1815
Milicent 1818
William 1821
Elizabeth 1823
Hannah 1826
Sarah 1829                         IGI BATCH NUMBER C060221

Thomas Leedham consistently gives his name as Leedham, think you need to check the actual marriage
between German Dean and Elizabeth in the Duffield Marriage Register.  It is quite probable that it is
recorded as Needham but it could be an error on IGI transcript. 
If in the register it does state Needham, I think this could be an original error as for instance Benjamin
B 1815 also states Leedham.  If a register error, this would also have been carried over to Civil Registration
details.

There is also a patron submitted item for a marriage 27.12.1813 Duffield for a Thomas Leedham to Ann Slater,
which should also be checked in the original registers, as many patron submitted items are incorrect.

1841 Census HO107/197 Book 4 Folio 5 Pg 5  Ashbourne
Leedham Elizabeth aged 20  Female Servant  (age rounded down for this census)
Spendlove

Spendlove

[bcockertoo]

Hi Spendlove
Thanks for the information on the Leedham baptisms. I have information on some of the family from church records and census but I hadn't found Elizabeth Leedham living with her father in 1861 until recently and then there was doubt as to whether she was Leedham or Needham. The information from her marriage certificate leads me to believe that she is a Leedham and gives me leads to follow on Thomas Leedham. I have ordered the PR to check the marriage record.
BTW do you have a connection to Ellen Spendlove bap 1820 in Belper, parents George and Hannah Spendlove?

Barbara