Ll ???

[Kennington]

Hi
Can anyone tell me what " Ll " stands for as a middle name on  a Welsh census return ?

I think it might be Lloyd as that would be his mother's maiden name.

Mary

[Welsh Jen]

It could be Lloyd, or Llewellyn 

Which census was it found on?

Jen

[Kennington]

Hi Jen,

On 1881 census for Evan Stephen, Holyhead.

Ican't find Evan on any other census, or his wife Sarah, so I thought i'd go for son Evan Ll.

Cant find any of them though.

Bit of a brick wall, really.

Mary

[D ap D]

As Jen said, Lloyd and Llewelyn are the most likely 2. Just as my brother and I 
Lloyd is probably your best bet, although there is no fixed naming convention, unlike the Scots, for example.

Just to confuse, other names could be:
Llawdden, Llecheu, Llefelys, Lleision, Lleufer, Lliedi, Llifon, Lludd, Lluddocaf, Llwyd, Llyfni, Llyndaf, Llynnor, Llyr, Llywarch.

Other than LLifon, Llyfni and Llyr, I've not met anyone with those names though. 

D

[Welsh Jen]

I found this entry. Is this them?

   Dwelling:   30 Porth Y Felin
   Census Place:   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Source:   FHL Film 1342343     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 5594    Folio 104    Page 63
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Evan STEPHEN   M   32    M   Ffestiniog, Merioneth, Wales
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Mariner Unemployed
Sarah STEPHEN   M   33    F   Aberffraw, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Wife
   Occ:   Wife
Evan Ll. STEPHEN       10    M   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Maggie M. STEPHEN       9    F   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Sarah E. STEPHEN       7    F   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Edward STEPHEN       5    M   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
William J. STEPHEN       3    M   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Son
Walter H. STEPHEN       11 m   M   Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
   Rel:   Son


It still doesn't clarify what Ll. is an abbreivation of(?)

[Kennington]

Thanks D,

Clear as mud then !! will keep all those in mind.


to Jen

Yes , thats the census I've got.

Maggie M is my great grandmother. I would dearly love to trace back further - perhaps I will need to visit Anglesey .

Mary