1861 Census Look-up please..

[sthwales]

Would someone be good enough to look for John Valentine in the 1861 Census?

He was born in 1825 in Germany, is listed as a commercial traveller, and was living in E London (Mile End Old Town, Shoreditch, etc.) and I suspect he would have been living with the wife he married on 8th Jan 1860 at Shoreditch St Leonards - another record I'm trying to retrieve.

Many thanks in advance.
Cheers
Clive

[tazzie]

  Hi ....

 Possibly not your marriage then as ....

 John Valentine bach 26 cordwainer father John
 Rosina Marshall spin 29 shoecloser father John both of 10 Rose & Crown Court.

 Living there in 1861 John Valentine son of John & Ann born 1833 Bishopsgate  RG9/230 F 137 PAGE 25

  Tazzie

[Barbara F]

A possible?

61 Hatton Garden, Saffron Hill, Middx

John Valentin Head 26 Commercial Traveller (Glass) born Germany

He is described as married but is on his own.

RG9 187 f 32

Barbara

[sthwales]

Thanks both for replying so quickly.

I've come across the commercial traveller before, but discounted it because on the 1871 & 1881 censuses he's shown as a tailor - this could be countered by the fact that on his son's marriage certificate he's shown as a labourer, so I guess he could have been looking for work of any kind. I kind of imagined, though, that if he was a tailor it would have been a profession rather than just a job, and if he wasn't a time-served tailor he wouldn't have been able to get a job as a tailor in the first place!

Have been checking for marriages for him, and came up with the marriage to Rosina also. He did, in fact, have a son called John, but John Jr was born in 1862.

I think I'm going to have to search for the birth of John Jr and use the parent info from the certificate - haven't had any luck with that one so far though (thought I might have been able to take a short cut !)

Many thanks

[Barbara F]

Yes I traced the one I found in 1861 and, as you say, the change to tailor seems very odd!

Birth certificate seems to be the way to go.

Barbara