Wexford marriage

[manus]

Hi Heywood
 Laraheen could be the place I am going to send off for a copy of the original and see what that say's but I will keep looking for Laraheen.  Thank you very much for all your help.

Regards Manus 

[manus]

Hi all sorry about the certificate it won't happen again

Regards Manus

[heywood]

Just doing a general search gives nothing for Lahareen but looking for Hollyfort on a map shows it 

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&rlz=1R2SKPB_enGB342&q=hollyfort%20wexford&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

I just thought that Lahareen was similar to Fahareen.

However, I don't understand re Coolgreany.   I can see that Coolgreany is not far away so I feel ok now. 

Again by looking for Catholic churches (as I said earlier they are Catholic in 1911) I saw that there is a church at Kilanerin which may be the parish.

Maybe Shane would know more or be able to figure this out.
I am only trying to make some sense of this- hope you don't mind.

[heywood]

Now this is interesting.

Manus, you refer to John Hunter Gowan - the (in)famous one lived long before this John but there is a death in the indexes for John Hunter Gowan 1865.

This site: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/obidxg.htm

indicates that there was an obituary - JHG was 28 yrs at death in 1865 so can't be the father of your John but it does say Hollyfort.

Unfortunately it is not online. 

[shanew147]

Hi Heywood

On Ann's birth certificate it say's place of birth Faraheen but I could not find it in Wexford. I  think this is a mistake and it should have been Raheen.  The registrar's District was Coolgreany Gorey Wexford  This is a copy of the birth certificate  On the other 3 it say's place of birth Hollyfort.  Thank you for your help.

Regards Manus

Laraheen sounds like a strong possibility to me - only require misreading of one letter when the GRO transcribed the details for the official cert you have.

I believe Coolgreany is the sub-district for the birth, part of the Registration District of Gorey. Coolgreany town is less than 10km from Holyfort, and a little closer to Laraheen.

the locations on a google map : http://www.rootschat.com/links/07a1/

I'd say the next step is to examine a copy cert to confirm both the location and mothers maiden name and see what that reveals.

Manus - are the other certs you have the same format as Ann's ? (i.e. transcripts )



Shane

[heywood]

Good morning,

I thought I would just mention this- not sure if it has been looked at before. I saw it yesterday.

IGI submitted record (no source at all)

"Marriage About 1873 Of 1874 Births, Civil,,, Ireland" (what does that mean  )
Mary Burns and John Spear Gowan

I wonder if Spear is a play on Hunter - very odd.

It might fit in with the other John Gowen marriage if he married Mary Brien 

[aghadowey]

I have a Sarah Hunter who was listed as Sarah Hawk at the baptism of her 1st child!
The IGI record is submitted (by person unknown) and it looks like they got John and Mary's names from an 1874 civil birth record and are thus assuming (as people sometimes do  ) that John and Mary were married a year before the child's birth.

[heywood]

Thanks aghadowey,
I wondered about that.
It may be then that this is the other couple 

It's like a word association game perhaps 

[shanew147]

I've looked through the list of townlands included in the District of Gorey, Sub-District of Coolgreany and see that it includes maybe 100 townlands, including Holyfort and Laraheen.

The only placename in the sub-district beginning with F is Fortchester (uppper & lower). Two placenames  include 'heen' and they are Laraheen & Laraheenhill, which are both in Kilcavan Civil Parish.



Shane