Wexford marriage

[shanew147]

I found this but no Mary Byrne to match:

Name: John Gowen
Registration district: Enniscorthy
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date - quarter and year: 1876
Volume: 4
Page: 756

Dara.

this Mary could be a cross match to the record Dara found...

 Name: Mary Brien
 Registration district: Enniscorthy
 Record type: Marriage
 year: 1876
 Volume: 4 / Page: 756


Shane

[manus]

Hi Heywood Dara and Shane

Sorry to confuse you I should have said Mary Gowan (nee Byrne)and John Gowan on  one of the children's birth certificate's and the name Byrne is how it was spelt  and that is the same as the other 3 children's birth certificate's that I have found.  The John Gowan  for Enniscorthy.  I have seen this one but it's the wrong one as he has a different Family. Thank you all so much for your help.

Regards Manus   

[Oaks and Acorns]

If the 1911 census return posted earlier is the correct family, both John Gowan and his wife Mary list themselves as being unable to write.

Bearing this in mind, anywhere their names were written (e.g. birth or marriage certs) were recorded by other people. The 3 children's birth certs may have been recorded by the same person and therefore show a consistency in spelling that may not extend to all written records of their names.

I'm sure you have good grounds for ruling out the 1876 marriage, John Gowen and Mary Brien. If it was me, I'd risk the €4 just to be sure.

Besr wishes,
Dara.

[heywood]

Hi Dara,
when I was getting confused earlier and couldn't find the right census sheet, I was searching for Gowen 

There is a John Gowen, widower, married for 33 yrs. His oldest daughter with him is Mary Ann so his may well be the 1876 marriage 

heywood

[manus]

Hi Heywood

Yes I see that John Gowen he's not my John Gowan. when I was looking at the census it say's he had 9 children 7 was still living at the time of the census so far I have found 4
Ann born 1880
John born 1882
Catherine born 1886
James born 1889   I have got the birth cerificates for this 4.  The 3 other children
are Harry born 1892
Molly real name is Mary born 1896 (My grandmother)
Thomas born 1889   I can not find the  birth's  so he may not have registered them.  I guess the only thing I can do now is to find out what church they were baptized in.
Thank you for your help

Regards Manus

   

[Oaks and Acorns]

Hi heywood,

Looks like you are right. Well spotted.

Between 1870 and 1889 there is only 1 John Gowen marriage recorded in Wexford. Looking at the whole of Ireland there are only 6 John Gowan/Gowen marriages during the same period. I can't find a Mary Byrne match for any of the 6 (apart from the Mary Brien mentioned by Shane above).

Sorry I can't be more helpful at this point Manus.

Dara.

[heywood]

I'm just in the process of looking at 50 pages of John ? marriages and trying to match up but 
I've also tried variations of spellings and Mc prefixes.

Manus
You wrote earlier that both John and Mary were born in Gorey. Are you certain about this? You know about their oldest child being born 1880- do you have that birth certificate? I am wondering if they were always in Hollyfort.

[manus]

Dara  thank you for taking the time to help me

Regards Manus

[manus]

Hi Heywood

Yes as far as I know  they have always lived in hollyfort Gorey Wexford  some where down the line he is related to John Hunter Gowan maybe his gggrandson   Thank you for your help and time.

Regards Manus