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Re: Cause of death?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 22:04 BST (UK) »
 :) Hi everyone and thank you all,

I`ve had another look at the original and on a bigger copy, I think it says poisoning (well, it`s easy now that some of you told me what it said  ;))

There must have been a post mortem as on his death entry there was no cause mentioned, but in the margin it said "see Reg of corrected entry" and the cause of death was given on there. He died on March 20th, and the corrected entry was dated the 28th.

Surely this would have been reported in the local paper? Does anyone know which paper that would be at that time? Or have any idea where else I would look for more info?
A black sheep at last !!

Thanks again for all your help.
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 22:52 BST (UK) »
Surely this would have been reported in the local paper? Does anyone know which paper that would be at that time?

I think you have only told us he was a Scottish farmer.  No date, no place, no name. ???

It would be presumptuous of us to think he was a William MILNE of Aberdeenshire, wouldn't it? ;)
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 23:06 BST (UK) »
 :) Geoff... all I can say is whoops !!

Your wild guess was correct !! His name was William Milne. He was born on 15th May 1845. Married Isabella Stott on 31st May 1872 at Fetteresso, Kincardine, and died on 20th March 1896 at Windford, Cookney. (He was a widower, Isabella had already died)

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Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland

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Re: Cause of death?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 00:13 BST (UK) »
I'm a bit late on the scene but I would go with Narcotic Poisoning as well.

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perhaps even used it on their children when teathing, what was that mixture used on teething infants as late as 1950?

Was it Gripe Water?  I think it used to contain a bit of morphine.

I believe that opiates were also used to treat fatal diseases like tuberculosis.  Also products containing opiates were given to children in 19thC Lancashire by childminders to 'soothe' them into inactivity whilst their mother's worked in the mills.  They went by names like 'mother's mercy' and 'Godfrey's Cordial' and the use of them sometimes resulted in the death of the child. 

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Re: Cause of death?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 19:13 BST (UK) »
Hardly a blacksheep if this was the social norm at the time. Somehow it doesn't look like poisoning to me.Is there any chance of getting a copy certificate from the local registrar's office, they are hand written copies of the original entry, so there is no loss due to the reprographic processes.
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 19:55 BST (UK) »
Hi. Thanks for the replies

Maybe I should get in touch with SP and ask them for a better image?

If not, then which RO do I contact, and can I do it online?

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Tracey

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Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 20:21 BST (UK) »
I can only speak directly for English certificates which record the Registry Office where the event was registered. I believe Scottish certificates have similar content, but if I am wrong no doubt someone will correct me.
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Re: Cause of death?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 20:30 BST (UK) »


Somehow it doesn't look like poisoning to me.



I wonder if this might help in the meantime Tracey, apart from removing the background noise and increasing the black in the neutral shade, I haven't tampered with your original image.
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Re: Cause of death?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 20:46 BST (UK) »
I am certain it is poisoning as cause of death, specially with the enhanced image from Pels.

For extra confirmation, you can contact SP on this link www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/contactus/form.aspx?issue=24 and explain what section you are having a problem making out. They will send you an enhanced image via email. They are very good on these types of enquiries (normal turnaround 24-48hrs). In most cases, the enhanced images from SP can make problem areas very clear.

Monica  :)
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