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Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:21 BST (UK) »
I was very excited to open up this morning my great, great grandmother (Annie Moore) and g,g, grandfather's (Alexander Barron) marriage certificate (married in Dublin) and to discover her father was a clergyman whose name is Collins-Moore I cannot read his first name its almost impossible to decipher.  Oddly though they are married in a registry office? (1874) now I find that odd that her father is a clergyman and she is marrying in a registry office.  My g,g,grandfather was a bagpiper in the Scots Guards and is stationed in Dublin at the time of their meeting so maybe that is the reason? does anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how common or why they may have married in a registry office? or know anything about Irish clergy in this part of Ireland.  I am hoping at some stage to visit Wicklow but will need a bit more information before I do. Any help most gratefully received!
Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron

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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:33 BST (UK) »
Some ministers/churches at that time were not authorised to perform marriages under civil regulations so a civil marriage (registry office) had to take place and very often a separate ceremony would have been performed in the church. If you do find a newspaper announcement of the wedding it will most likely give church (rather than registry office) as place of marrage.
What's the bride's residence given on the marriage certificate?- this may help find her father.
Other thing to check is what Annie listed as her birthplace in any available census records.
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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:43 BST (UK) »
Do you know why some Ministers or Churches were not allowed to perform marriages? It seems strange I am probably showing my ignorance but I always believed there was only one religion in Southern Ireland being Roman Catholicism?  I will have a good look at the marriage certificate the place of residence is hard to read its County Dublin, "something" House (will have a good look when I go home)  The Census records I have checked to date are all in England and the place of birth for Annie is always Wicklow, Ireland
Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron

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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 October 09 12:25 BST (UK) »
Probably 3 'main' religions here in Ireland are Church of Ireland (also known as Established Church which is similar to Church of England/Episcopal), Roman Catholic and Presbyterian (which is again broken down into various ones such as Reformed Presbyterians, Succeders, etc.). There are also Methodists, Congregationalists, Baptists, Quakers, Brethern...
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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 09 12:39 BST (UK) »
oooops I had better read up on my Irish History  :) well I will keep digging for now thank you for all your help
Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron

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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 09 13:42 BST (UK) »
Not allowed to post full certificates here but bits can be posted for deciphering.
If you can scan it, then paste the bits with bride's residence and father's name we might be able to get something useful from it.
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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 09 10:17 BST (UK) »
thank you, I will do that tomorrow at work it would be a great help I have had another look and I really cant make it out at all
Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron

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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 October 09 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hello
Here is the document I have tried to cut and paste but I need more advanced software apparently!
can you please read it and let me know if you can make this out
Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron

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Re: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 October 09 13:18 BST (UK) »
Father of bride - Wm Collins? Moore clergyman
Residence of bride - 2 Eglinton Terrace R/B?__ghah? Co.Dublin
Line reads - 28 March 1881 on? license  [not house]

Perhaps someone else will be able to figure out exact address on certificate.
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