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looking for Dargues
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:01 BST (UK) »
Hello all,

I am looking for the marraige of my gt aunt who was married in Toronto I think.  The family say her married name was Smith and she married while visiting her brothers there.  Her maiden name was Florence Dargue and she was born about 1909in the UK.  I have no idea when she was married but would guess in the 1930's or 40's.

I am also looking for the marraige of her brother Robert who was born about 1919 who had emmigrated to Canada.  They were both from the South Shields area of the UK.  I would also like to find Roberts death in Canada.

The other brother was Albert and i have his death notice from the Canadian papers.

It would be great to find out what happened to Robert and if he has any children left alive or if indeed he had any at all.

Please can anyone help me.

Thank you in anticipation

Jac
Garbutt Ashington Northumberland,
 Simpson SouthShields,
Clark Northumberland,
Dargue South Shields, 
Atkinson South Shields,
Ellis Tynemouth and Liverpool,
Sadler tynemouth,
Leathley, Routhledge,Forrest.
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Re: looking for Dargues
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 23:31 BST (UK) »
Did Albert's death notice/obituary mention any names for Robert's wife and what newspaper was it in as that might narrow down the area to search.

There is a record of a Robert Dargue, 16 1/2, single, b. South Shields, leaving Liverpool and arriving Quebec 30 April 1927 on the Montcalm.  His occupation in Britain was electrical apprentice and he was intending to farm in Canada.  His address in Canada was B.I.C.A. Hostel Montreal.  The address of his nearest kin in Britain was his mother Mrs. Charlotte Dargue of 399 S. Palmerston St. S. Shields.
Any relation?  The birth year is quite off compared to 1919. 

On FreeBMD there is a birth registration for Robert R. Dargue Dec 1910 S. Shields 10a 787

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/
From a search at this site there is a grave for Robert Dargue in Mt. Pleasant Cemetery Grey County Sarawak Township Ontario and also in Mount Pleasant is Thirsa Dargue (nee Quesnell).  A possibility for Robert?

Vital statistics in Canada are not handled on a national level but are governed by individual provinces and what is publically accessible varies.  They are all governed by privacy laws and if your family married in Ontario you can see from this link how limited the resouces are to trace forward.
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/archival-records/interloan/vsmain.aspx

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Re: looking for Dargues
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 09:54 BST (UK) »
Hello there,

I have looked at Alberts obituary and there is no reference to his brother Robert in it at all.  I will check the birth I have for Robert as I was led to believe he was born 1919 but this may be an error.  He may well be the one you have found for 1910.

I am not at home at the moment so will have to wait untill i return later today to check the newspaper cutting and also the information.

Thanks for your help

JAC
Garbutt Ashington Northumberland,
 Simpson SouthShields,
Clark Northumberland,
Dargue South Shields, 
Atkinson South Shields,
Ellis Tynemouth and Liverpool,
Sadler tynemouth,
Leathley, Routhledge,Forrest.
Herfy Germany,USA and London
Chester London and USA
Hopkins London
Hales London

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Re: looking for Dargues
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:13 BST (UK) »
Hello Debbie,

Robert Dargue was born 14 September 1910 sorry i got my date wrong.  The obituary for his brother Albert was in the Toronto Daily Star if that is of any help.  His full name was Robert Routledge Dargue according to his fathers Army discharge papers.

I hope someone out there can find his death or his sisters marraige for me.

Regards

Jac
Garbutt Ashington Northumberland,
 Simpson SouthShields,
Clark Northumberland,
Dargue South Shields, 
Atkinson South Shields,
Ellis Tynemouth and Liverpool,
Sadler tynemouth,
Leathley, Routhledge,Forrest.
Herfy Germany,USA and London
Chester London and USA
Hopkins London
Hales London


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 17:07 BST (UK) »
ancestry misinterpreted Florence's last name as Dargas which delayed finding her.

She also emigrated in 1927.  Florence Ann Dargue left Liverpool bound for Quebec on the ship Regina.  She arrived June 4, 1927.  She was 20, single, b. Hull, England.  She was a domestic in England and was going to do the same work in Canada with a destinatin of Canadian Women's Hostel Calgary, Alberta.  Her mother, Charlotte Jane Dargue, was given as her next of kin in England with the same address as Robert's shipping record.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 17:35 BST (UK) »
http://pagesofthepast.ca/ 
You might be able to trace the family through birth, marriage and death announcements in this paper.   

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Re: looking for Dargues
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 17:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Debbie,

I will have a look at that.  This is them as that was their mothers name.  Thanks for all the help.

Best wishes

Jac
Garbutt Ashington Northumberland,
 Simpson SouthShields,
Clark Northumberland,
Dargue South Shields, 
Atkinson South Shields,
Ellis Tynemouth and Liverpool,
Sadler tynemouth,
Leathley, Routhledge,Forrest.
Herfy Germany,USA and London
Chester London and USA
Hopkins London
Hales London

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Re: looking for Dargues
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacq,

I checked the Toronto Star archives and the only reference for "Dargue" was for Albert.
Which was in 1977... I saved a copy of the page in the paper if you want it.
I saw in the above posts that she was bound for Calgary, Alberta?  I wonder if she married out there?  I'll see if I can find the newspaper archives for Calgary..

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 October 09 16:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Aislyn  for that info but i have a copy of Alberts obituary.  It would be interesting to see if any of the others are in the records.  Mum can't remember but she thinks Florence came back with her daughter vivienne or it could be veronica.  She may have had her in Canada but mums memory is sketchy.

Thanks again

Jac
Garbutt Ashington Northumberland,
 Simpson SouthShields,
Clark Northumberland,
Dargue South Shields, 
Atkinson South Shields,
Ellis Tynemouth and Liverpool,
Sadler tynemouth,
Leathley, Routhledge,Forrest.
Herfy Germany,USA and London
Chester London and USA
Hopkins London
Hales London