Richard Barnard

[Loupy]

Hi there
I have hit a brick wall and would like help breaking it down.  I have in my tree the following:

Robert Barnard born circa 1817 Friday Bridge, Elm, Cambs who married i) Hannah Sydell in 1840 and ii) Mary Ablett in 1848.

On Robert's marriage certificate it gives his father as Richard Barnard.  I assumed, mistakenly, that Richard was from Elm, Cambs but upon checking census records, 1841 and 1851 have found out he came from Bradfield, Norfolk.  Also checking via RootsChat Cambs lookups this was confirmed.

Can anyone tell me when Richard was born  and where, anything about his parents etc.  I also have him marrying someone called Elizabeth.  Elizabeth whom?  Where was she born etc.  Does Robert have any siblings?   

If I am asking too much please let me know but I desparately want to knock the wall down!

Any help would be appreciated.

With many thanks - eagerly awaiting!!   Loupy

[suzard]

:

On Robert's marriage certificate it gives his father as Richard Barnard.  I assumed, mistakenly, that Richard was from Elm, Cambs but upon checking census records, 1841 and 1851 have found out he came from Bradfield, Norfolk.  Also checking via RootsChat Cambs lookups this was confirmed.

Can anyone tell me when Richard was born  and where, anything about his parents etc.  I also have him marrying someone called Elizabeth.  Elizabeth whom?  Where was she born etc.  Does Robert have any siblings?   

If I am asking too much please let me know but I desparately want to knock the wall down!

Any help would be appreciated.

With many thanks - eagerly awaiting!!   Loupy

If you have checked the 1841/51 census then you should have the brother of Robert -and ages of richard and Elizabeth??

Suz

[Loupy]

Hi Suz
Yes have that Robert has one sibling from these census but it doesnt tell me who Elizabeth (her maiden name) was, when she married Richard etc etc and whether Robert had any other siblings which is what I am looking for? Also looking for Richards parents to go further back in the tree without a maiden name for Elizabeth I cannot get marriage certificate etc etc!  Going round in circles here.

Regards  Loupy

[suzard]

the entries on IGI are member submitted - so are to be treated with caution
and little information is given as to further siblings

Richard age is given on 1851 so you will have to look around that time

It may be worth putting a request on norfolk board asking for baptism for Richard - stating
 IGI has a submitted record

if asking for Robert's siblings it may be worth stating you have already found Samuel -but baptism on IGI is member submitted -so request for parish reg look up would be a good idea

Hope this helps

Suz

[peggypatch]

You won't be able to get a marriage certificate at that date anyway, it will need to be an entry from a parish register. What I can tell you is that there is no Richard Barnard marrying in Norfolk between 1801 and 1837 near Bradfield or anywhere near the Norfolk/Cambridgeshire border.

Unfortunately nothing from Bradfield has been added to Freereg yet, so you really need a baptisms look up of Bradfield circa 1780 for Richard and a more extensive search of the Elm registers to see if there were other children born in the parish and if a marriage can be found there.