Bradley children

[montie]

My grandmother, Elizabeth Bradley, emigrated with her siblings, Nellie, Ruby and Joseph, from England, around 1900. She was 12 at the time. I have searched many places but without success.  Can anyone help me to find out where to look and how? Thank you!!

[andarah]

Do you know where they left from and where they moved to?

[andarah]

I've tried a few things, but a bit more info would help.

Is Bradley the surname for all 4?

Do you know any other ages?

Have you found them in any England censuses?

Do you know whether they came directly to Canada.  I didn't get a chance to check, but they may have come via the US.  So far I've only checked arrivals in Canada.

Do you know if they all traveled together or did they come in bits and spurts over a couple years?

Do you know if Nellie is a nickname for something else?

Do you know who the oldest is?  Did they all come as children without an adult?

Sorry for all the questions!  I have tried quite a few places as well and not finding them.  If you know any of this info, it might be useful.

[montie]

Thank you very much for your help!

Here is what I can tell you from the information  I have (unfortunately not much):

I've tried a few things, but a bit more info would help.

Is Bradley the surname for all 4? Yes

Do you know any other ages? No ages are certain, but I think Ruby must have been younger than Elizabeth, because she married a Jim (James) Jordan after WWWI.

Have you found them in any England censuses? No so far.

Do you know whether they came directly to Canada.  I didn't get a chance to check, but they may have come via the US.  So far I've only checked arrivals in Canada. I think so. They left from Liverpool, and an uncle of mine says that they were born in Liverpool, but I am not sure about that. Later Nellie and Joseph (Joe) went to the US, but I don't know when and I don't know whether they were sent or they left later. Apparently they were involved in a bicyle shop in Upstate New York.

Do you know if they all traveled together or did they come in bits and spurts over a couple years? I am told Elizabeth said they were never separated. Apparently the four siblings stayed in a convent in Montreal for a while.

Do you know if Nellie is a nickname for something else? Probably Ellen (or Helen)

Do you know who the oldest is?  Did they all come as children without an adult? They came as orphans. I don't know who the eldest was.

Sorry for all the questions!  I have tried quite a few places as well and not finding them.  If you know any of this info, it might be useful.

I was told that at around 16, Elizabeth was "sent into the world" (presumably from the convent) to work as a maid for a Montreal's lawyer's house. Ruby stayed in Montreal.

thank you again for your help.

Added : Elizabeth's birth day was a Feb. 22.

[andarah]

I found an Elizabeth Bradley (aged 15), Robina Bradley (aged 13) and Ellen Bradley (aged 12) in St Elizabeth's Institute in 1901 in Liverpool, England.

They were all born in Lanc, Liverpool.


Then I looked at the 1891 census for those name and found this:

Jospeh Bradley b. 1859  Warehouse Labourer
Robina Bradley b. 1861
Joseph Bradley b. 1895
Elizabeth Bradley b. 1886
Robina Bradley b. 1888
Ellen Bradley b. 1890 (the census transcript says Etter because the `R' in Robina loops down and crosses the `ll' in ellen, but it is clearly Ellen)

The lived in Toxteth Park.
All were born in Liverpool.

If you are correct that they came to Canada when Elizabeth was 12, then they would have come around 1898.

[KarenM]

Hi Montreal,

If you go to the Home Children database at Library and Archives Canada you will find, Eliza, Ellen and Robina Bradley arriving in Canada aboard the Tunisinan in 1901.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php

Karen

[andarah]

Great find Karen!

I just looked as well, and Eliza is listed as Eliza Brady, but the age fits.

However, it says they came from Ireland, and the ship is the Tunisian.

I wonder where Joseph is.  Unlike the institute that I found them in, this group of children was boys and girls.  Joseph would have been 16, so maybe he was outside their reach for protecting children.  I wonder if he came separately at the same time and met up with them.

[andarah]

I cannot find them in Canada, but I did look up the Canadian Catholic Protective Agency that brought them over, and from what I read, I think the children from that ship went to Peterborough, Ontario.

Here's a link:

http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ships3.html#1901

[cosmac]

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e147/e003650950.jpg
The Bradley girls are towards the bottom of the page but not grouped together.

Debbie