Bradley children

[montie]

Thank you so much andarah and everyone. I does look like them all right! This is just amazing. I had looked in the BAC files and also in the 1891 census through "The Genealogist", but I am no expert.

So that means that Joseph was born in 1885 and not 1895 (that is 16 and not 6 years old)? Could he have been considered as an adult then? He would have certainly met up with them later on.

This is so encouraging!


Suzanne

[andarah]

Do you already have Ruby's wedding?

I have her on March 13, 1930 marrying James Jordan.

Her name is Ruby Mary, her father is Joseph and her mother is Ruby Wheeler.  This supports the 1891 census that I found in England, but they were both called Robina there.

James' parents are Frank and Gertrude Gorvau?

They had to be granted a special dispensation for marriage because of mixed religions.

They were married at St Anthony of Padua in Montreal.


Do you know Elizabeth's husband's name?  I assume he is your grandfather?  Do you already have their wedding?

[andarah]

Thank you so much andarah and everyone. I does look like them all right! This is just amazing. I had looked in the BAC files and also in the 1891 census through "The Genealogist", but I am no expert.

So that means that Joseph was born in 1885 and not 1895 (that is 16 and not 6 years old)? Could he have been considered as an adult then? He would have certainly met up with them later on.

This is so encouraging!


Suzanne

Yes!  That was a typo on my part.

[KarenM]

I wonder if this is Joseph Bradley, born Liverpool 1885 who signed up for WW1

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Karen

[montie]

Do you already have Ruby's wedding?

I have her on March 13, 1930 marrying James Jordan. Yes, definitely! I did not have a date or place, but he was James Jordan for sure.
Her name is Ruby Mary, her father is Joseph and her mother is Ruby Wheeler.  This supports the 1891 census that I found in England, but they were both called Robina there. Indeed.

James' parents are Frank and Gertrude Gorvau?

They had to be granted a special dispensation for marriage because of mixed religions.

They were married at St Anthony of Padua in Montreal.
I don't know about Jim Jordan's parents at all. I was told he was a home child too. The church sounds right too, it is just a little south of Montreal (if it's the one I think it is).

Do you know Elizabeth's husband's name?  I assume he is your grandfather?  Do you already have their wedding? Francesco (Frank) Anfossi, b 1881 in Italy. He emigrated from England I think. I have no date for their wedding, maybe around 1908, as they had a first child (a baby girl who died at 3 months old - I have no date of birth or death) and then a son, b. in 1910 (who died in 1918).

[cosmac]

There is a marriage Sep 1880 West Derby 8b 918 for Joseph Bradley and Robina Wheler
Birth for Robina Gray Wheeler Mar 1860 West Derby 8b 293

On the 1871 British census in Liverpool there is Robina Wheeler, 12 b. Liverpool living with sister Annie, 17, b. Liverpool, bookkeeper and her married mother Elizabeth Wheeler, 45, born Edinborough Scotland.  Father not present.

The 1881 census is slightly confusing.  It shows a number of people living at 103 Park St. South Toxteth Liverpool
Robina and her husband Joseph, 22. b. Liverpool, Biscuit maker (baker) are shown related to Thomas and Miriam Baker or Barker both born North Wales.  Joseph is shown as his son-in-law and yet directly below Robina is Margaret Walsh and then 54 year old Elizabeth Wheler born in Edinborough with her widowed actress daughter Elizabeth Ann L'estrange and Elizabeth's daughter.  It might seem that the relationships were misinterpreted?

Debbie

[cosmac]

The 1861 census for Toxteth Park Liverpool
George Wheeler, 33, b. Poole Dorsetshire, mariner
Elizabeth Wheeler, 33, b. Edinborough, Scotland
George, 10 b. New York America
Elizabeth 8, Ann 5, and Rebecca 1 all born Liverpool

Debbie

[andarah]

I think I found Elizabeth and Frank in the 1911 census.

However, their name has been butchered.  The census has it as Auphonse, with an accent on the e.  if you sound it out, it's close to Anfossi.

The ages are also correct - b in Sept. 1881 and Feb. 1886, and they have a 6 month old son, John b. Nov 1910.

He is a waiter, worked 52 weeks the previous year, worked 55 hours/week and earned $400.

They lived in the St Antoine ward in Montreal.

He was born in Italy and she was born in England.

However, it has both of their immigration years as 1906.  Maybe his immigration year was 1906 and the census taker made an assumption?

[cosmac]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/07e2/
1911 census image

Debbie