Traveller a Gypsy?

[magnacarta]

G.G.Granma came from Ireland on her marriage certificate the father is down as a Traveller,what would the chance be of him being a Gypsy?

[hepburn]

I'd think it would be a good chance......

[Redroger]

For Romany surnames try http//:romanyconnections.wetpaint.com

[RomanyRoser]

My findings are- One of the terms given to "Gypsies" was more commonly "Tinker" in Ireland and Commercial Travellers or travelling Salesmen as Travellers. A safe bet is if the person involved passes 5 points ( ie) name, description, occupation, address and crime (if appropriate) it is a fair bet that they are Romany. Not saying that your family were not. What is the surname- Roser

[magnacarta]

Steel, but I have not found it on any Romany listings.

[RomanyRoser]

I have these people listed in my research on Romany's in England- Edmund STELLE(E) was a convict- Roser

STEAL 1714 (Gypsies Passing Through), STEEL(E) 1743-Present (int) (Derbyshire,Yorkshire) (See Robert Dawson ARITF),
STEAL Mary 1714 16 Jan Wife of John Stranger Dorking, - (Burial Surrey, Ref Gypsies Passing Through)
STEAL Mary 1714 27 July Daughter of a traveller  Dorking, - (Burial Surrey, Ref Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Elizabeth 1713 10 May Edward (Traveller)  , Reigate, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Emma 1870 16 Jan William & Amy (General Dealer)  , St John, Croydon, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Flora P 34 Wife Rochampton, Surrey 1 Gloucester Road, and Littlehampton
STEEL John 1706 14 Feb John (Traveller)  , Reigate, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL John 40 Lodger Hawker London, Surrey 61-62 Pimlico Robin Hood, Brighton RG10/1084/F? CD4 RG10_1084.pdf p.151
STEEL William 1846 26 Sep Thomas & Sarah (Hawker) , St Lawrence, Reading Berkshire (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL William 39 Head Sailor Sea Stedham, Sussex 1 Gloucester Road, and Littlehampton RG13/0962/~ F6
STEELE Diane(Ref Journal of the Romany and Traveller Family History Society)
STEELE Henry 40 Son Fish Hawker West Brighton, - No 42 Bread Street, St. Peter RG12/0812/F?
STEELE Richard 48 Lodger Agricultural Labourer Cowfold, Sussex Capsale, Horsham
STEELE Violet 1893 26 Mar Henry & Lydia (A Traveller)  , Cheam Common, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEELE,Elizabeth dau.of John & Ann STEELE, a traveller, born 19 Oct bap. 27 Oct 1780 (Of Reigate) ,) (Gypsies in the Surrey Poor Law Records Gypsies Passing Through)

STEEL(E), Edmund: b ~1789; '3 Legges Cross' HAMPSHIRE; m ENG with children, married 1837 TASMANIA with children; to VICTORIA Australia 1841; died ?1865
VICTORIA EBRK004 ( Ref- Swing Rioters to Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania), compiled by Geoffrey Sharman)

[magnacarta]

Wow! Thankyou for that list thats given me some hope.My Steel is James who had a daughter called Catherine around 1817(My G.G.Granma) I think I will join a Romany family history society and see if I can find any thing out.