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Re: scott family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Mary Sutherland would just have been keeper of the boarding house and would most likely be no relation. Mother Eliza was living in Edrom in 1861 not able to care for young Eliza.
BTW, John Scott married Eliza Adams in Duns in 1878 so she didn't marry under the name of Fairgrieve.

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:51 GMT (UK) »
April, Our posts keep crossing.
Smythes probably thought she was a Fairgreaves from the 1881 Census.

For your records Smythes form IGI;
Christening;
Eliza ADAMS
23 February 1860, Dunse, Berwick, Scotland
Mother,  Eliza ADAMS

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 November 09 14:36 GMT (UK) »
For Smythes,
As April found Eliza snr in 1861 is a ag lab at Ploughmans Cottage, aged 33, born Duns

This appears to be her in 1851;

William ADAMS, 60, Head, Mar, Laboure, born Ireland
Jane Adams, Wife, 48, born Chirnside, Berwickshire
ELIZA ADAMS, 25, Daug,  occp. at home, born Dunse
Mary Adams, 18, Daug, house servant, born Dunse
Isabella BOOKLESS, 17mths, grand-daughter born dunse
James HAMILTON, 1mth, grandson born Dunse


Christening , extracted IGI;
Eliza ADAMS
10 January 1826, Dunse, Berwick, Scotland
Parents; William ADAMS and Jean DODDS

Jeane/Jane can be interchangable.

Marriage Submitted;
William ADAMS
Jean DODDS
Abt 1823, Dunse, Berwick
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 November 09 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Oh :-[

I forgot to say;

Welcome to Rootschat Smythes :) ;D
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 November 09 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Isabella BOOKLESS
Christened 19 August 1849, Duns, Berwick
Parents, Peter BOOKLESS/Margaret ADAMS

Siblings of Eliza;
JEAN, 20 July 1849
MARGARET, 08 November 1828
MARY, 04 July 1830

1841 Census
Back St South Side,
Duns, Berwickshire
Duns/5/17/870

William ADAMS, 45, Head, Mar, labourer
JANE Adams, 35, Wife
Margaret Adams, 12
Mary Adams, 7

Marriage;
Jane ADAMS
John HAMILTON
28 June 1845, Bo'ness, West Lothian, Scotland

This fits with grandson John Hamilton on 1851 census with William and Jane.

Enough for tonight :)
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Re: scott family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 November 09 22:13 GMT (UK) »
thank you so much all of you - the info I had on Mary was that she was a foundling named after the Sutherland Homes where she was dropped , therefore Mary Sutherland Scott - who became sister to the Gfather JNF Scott I was told learned to use a rifle from his father who was a poacher 'finder' game keeper on some estate - it seems we have another one born on the other side of the blanket. No knowledge of any other siblingsto JNF.  Scotts then moved to Blairgowrie leaving in 1895 I have a silver tea service presented to them. Last known adress for Mary and Jane was 47 Stevenson Dr. Shawlands. Glasgow on 26.8.1930 in a letter to my Mother. How do you do it!

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 November 09 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Mary S Scott has written a letter to my mother from 47 Deanston Dr. Shawlands signed Aunt Mary and Uncle Alex Scott - but  she married Alex later in life - the letter was sent late 1949 - I have an old photo of her  wedding  - and she isn't young.  Twins of JNF Scott & Rebecca (McClean of Newcastle)were called Robert Nicholas and John Nelson - the Nelson has carried on to another generation.

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Trish & April - ta muchly for help am I right -
Robert Nelson m Elizabeth Lumsden
daughter Helen marries John Scott Snr
Son John marries Eliza Adams
children are JNF and adopted Mary -
how far back are we with robert Nelson & Elizabeth?  Does this tie in your wealth of info? the name Nelson is definitely feasible - maybe there is truth in the story we are tied into Horatio? (Its hot here - 35deg) Vic.Aus.

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 08:45 GMT (UK) »
I have discovered a connection to my tree as Eliza Adam jnr's cousin Mary Pollock married my great great uncle Thomas Ramsay. I have added your family to one of my Ancestry trees so I'll send you an invitation so that you can view it.  I'll PM you for your email address
April