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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 November 09 21:20 GMT (UK) »
The one thing that does match though is that William and Sarah Wallis/Wallace do have children named William and Ellen.

And the bonus is that Willialm Wallis jnr was Bp in Cheshunt 28 May 1843 which would match with a possible birth of May 1st, 1843.

From 1840 - 1861 they had 13 children who were baptised in Cheshunt (IGI Batch C072254)

I think it's the right family Gardener - it's just that the suggested birth dates of the parents was a bit off.
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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 November 09 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for this information.  You two are great!  I am sorry about the initial approx birth date I was going by what was given to me from a relative and never stopped to think how old they would be! 

You said you found reference to their marriage "William Wallis marriage sept qtr 1839 at Edmonton"   Is that Sep 25 1839?  Is Edmonton in Hertfordshire?  We have an Edmonton in AB Canada and I know it obviously isn't there.

Again thanks so much. :)
Bluett, Wallace. Fairley, Young, Seufert, Werling, Rivett, Metzger,

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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 November 09 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Sept qtr 1839 means any time in July, August or September 1839.

Obviously if you have a marriage date of 25 Sept 1839 then it fits with the marriage record found by Gardener.

The district Edmonton spans the boundaries of the counties of Essex, Hertfordshire and Middlesex - UK.





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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 November 09 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Well I don't know. This Ellen is a servant, and nurse by 1881. I can't quite see her upping and off to Africa. Didn't you need some education to be a missionary?
I'll have another look.
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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 November 09 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Well I don't know. This Ellen is a servant, and nurse by 1881. I can't quite see her upping and off to Africa. Didn't you need some education to be a missionary?
I'll have another look.

At least she's still single by 1881 and a Nurse so maybe that was all she needed to help the poor in Africa  :-\

I've been looking for the deaths of William and Sarah Wallis.

bcseeker said that they had a picture of Sarah Williams Wallace which means the pic must have been taken when she was over 40 at least and more than likely 60+

The death records I've seen indicate that she may have died c. 1861 which doesn't make sense.

I think I'll have another look  ::)



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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 November 09 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Do you have William in 1891 in Canada? Which one is he?
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-100.01-e.php
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 November 09 22:08 GMT (UK) »
The Sarah that I picked up and followed was this one, a widow by 1871

Sarah Wallis head w 50 nurse Herts Broxborn
John ditto son 24 gunmaker Cheshunt
Arthur ditto son 12 errand boy Cheshunt
Lewis ditto son 9 scholar Cheshunt
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 November 09 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Just so I don't lose him, I found  a George Wallace born Cheshunt about 1809. He is in Canterbury 1841/51. First clerk in King's School, then clergyman. 1861 he is in Hampshire, rector of All Saints, Burghclere.

Added: I just put that in because of the Kent clue but I don't see that he is connected. There is a bit about him here: http://anglicanhistory.org/england/sac/blain_opening2007.pdf should anyone stumble across this and want to know more.
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: birth for William Wallace
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 November 09 23:08 GMT (UK) »
William Wallace Jr is listed in both 1881 and 1891 Cdn census.
In 1881 is listed in Strathroy Middlesex East ON   ( must havebeen just after marriage as they were married in 1881)
In 1891 in West Middlesex ON - list children

Bluett, Wallace. Fairley, Young, Seufert, Werling, Rivett, Metzger,