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Crawfords of Derry
« on: Wednesday 18 November 09 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
I live in Co. Durham in northern England and a large section of my family came over from Ireland at the turn of the last century.
After years of waiting I have finally had a look at the English 1911 census and much to my delete the place of birth was finally on their census details. Up until now all I've ever had is just Ireland.
Now I have 'Derry' as a place of birth. I know it’s not much, but it’s a heck of improvement from Ireland :0) I have a mother Martha, and three sons Thomas, Joseph and William Crawford all sons were born in the 1870’s.  I think I have found 2 sisters as well, but I’m not 100% sure as they arrive in England already married.
The family was called Crawford and they moved to England in the 1890's. One of the sons came over first then everyone else followed apart from their father, William Crawford. I think he must have died in Ireland as their mother Martha Crawford is referred to as a widow on the 1901 census. I have checked my local records and he did not die here in Co. Durham. I suppose he could have died on route.

That is the sum total of my knowledge. I don’t even know how they got over here. Could someone suggest where to go from here? Are their any passengers’ lists available online? Is Derry to Co. Durham, via Liverpool their most likely route? Could they have coe over via a coastal town in Cumbria
Are there any surviving Derry records that may be of use to me?
They were C of E. in England so I presume they were Protestants while growing up in Ireland.
Any suggestions welcome. And I do mean anything. I am well and truly at a dead end.
Bridgett - Tyne and Wear,Derbyshire.
Crawford - Co. Durham, Ireland,
Laycock - West Yorkshire, Co. Durham
Frazer - Co. Durham
McCutcheon,Broadfoot, Lemond - Wigtownshire
White - Co. Down

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Can you give us an idea of birthdates of the children/possible children?
Derry can refere to both the city or the county so you'll still need to narrow down an area to find more records.
Ireland was part of the U.K. so records weren't kept of people travelling between Ireland and England, Scotland and Wales.
Civil registration of non-Catholic marriages began in 1845 but to find the marriage of William Crawford and Martha we'll need to know her maiden name. Have a few possibilites but need names and ages of children to confirm my suspicions.

Also, Martha's age would help.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks,
I can only guess their DOB by their ages on the census returns.
But Martha Crawford c. 1838 I have no idea what her maiden name was. There are no clues. I can't even guess. She died just before the 1911 census was taken. If only she had lived 2 more months!!!! :0)
Joseph gives his place of birth as 'County Tyrone, Ireland' no mention of Derry.
It's Thomas who gives Derry as his place of birth. I have presumed since they were brothers that they were all born in the same place.
William c. 1869
Thomas c. 1871
Joseph c. 1873
and Martha c. 1876
Bridgett - Tyne and Wear,Derbyshire.
Crawford - Co. Durham, Ireland,
Laycock - West Yorkshire, Co. Durham
Frazer - Co. Durham
McCutcheon,Broadfoot, Lemond - Wigtownshire
White - Co. Down

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I missed out a brother.
There is also a older brother James Crawford born c. 1863.
He gives his place of birth as 'Ireland, Co. Derry'. I think!
The handwritting has a great big smudge over the 'Co.' And Derry is originally writen Berry. And has been crossed out and replaced with Derry. Oh the joys of Family History.

I am happy to return any favours with a look up on my side of the UK is anyone needs help. I can help with Newcastle, Durham and Carlisle archives.
Bridgett - Tyne and Wear,Derbyshire.
Crawford - Co. Durham, Ireland,
Laycock - West Yorkshire, Co. Durham
Frazer - Co. Durham
McCutcheon,Broadfoot, Lemond - Wigtownshire
White - Co. Down


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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 23:08 GMT (UK) »
found these births & marriage could be a possible. the first joseph i persume died. if it is the right couple they surely had more children before civil reg.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 15 Nov 1849
Groom Name william Crawford age 28
Bride Name martha Moody age 20
Church Dunboe First Presbyterian Church
Parish Dunboe
Civil District Coleraine
County Londonderry

fathers james crawford & andrew moody.

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 29 May 1865
Name William CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 25 Nov 1868
Name Joseph CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 26 Jun 1870
Name Joseph CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 November 09 07:41 GMT (UK) »
there are eight 1841 census records for the name Crawford, living in the townland of Dartress, in the Parish of Dunboe, at www.emeraldancestors.com
It costs £9.99 for a months sub, well worth it.

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 November 09 22:55 GMT (UK) »
found these births & marriage could be a possible. the first joseph i persume died. if it is the right couple they surely had more children before civil reg.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 15 Nov 1849
Groom Name william Crawford age 28
Bride Name martha Moody age 20
Church Dunboe First Presbyterian Church
Parish Dunboe
Civil District Coleraine
County Londonderry

fathers james crawford & andrew moody.

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 29 May 1865
Name William CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 25 Nov 1868
Name Joseph CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 26 Jun 1870
Name Joseph CRAWFORD
Gender M
Fathers Name William CRAWFORD
Mothers Forenames Martha
Mothers Maiden Name MOODY
Church Articlave
Civil District  Coleraine
Sub District Dunboe
County Londonderry

                                                      regards mary.

Many thanks Mary.
 I Have seen this family before, and they moved out to the US. This is not my Crawfords.
But all the same thank you for taking the trouble
Bridgett - Tyne and Wear,Derbyshire.
Crawford - Co. Durham, Ireland,
Laycock - West Yorkshire, Co. Durham
Frazer - Co. Durham
McCutcheon,Broadfoot, Lemond - Wigtownshire
White - Co. Down

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 November 09 23:01 GMT (UK) »
there are eight 1841 census records for the name Crawford, living in the townland of Dartress, in the Parish of Dunboe, at www.emeraldancestors.com
It costs £9.99 for a months sub, well worth it.

My great grandfather and his brothers were not born until the 1860's and 70's . The 1841 census is jumping back a generation. I don't do that as a rule I take my family tree back one generation at a time. I need to find the family c. 1880 to be sure it's them.
But thanks for the website. I'll look into it.
Bridgett - Tyne and Wear,Derbyshire.
Crawford - Co. Durham, Ireland,
Laycock - West Yorkshire, Co. Durham
Frazer - Co. Durham
McCutcheon,Broadfoot, Lemond - Wigtownshire
White - Co. Down

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Re: Crawfords of Derry
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 January 10 17:39 GMT (UK) »
I am A Crawford My fathers name was James Allan From Londonderry brothers Harold Hazlett  Samuel and Jack any info would be greatly appreciated.