Ellen Rooney. St.Helens, Lancs.

[nieve]

Hi LIzzieW.   That is quite an idea and it could just pay off.   Unfortunatley, my Anc. subscription expired last week and I am just dithering whether to try FindMyPast or Anc. again.   I have been looking at various views from other Rootschatters and I will make up my mind  after Christmas when I have more time to concentrate [and my visitors have gone home].     All the best to you,   Nieve.

[LizzieW]

Hi Nieve

The difference between FindMyPast and Ancestry for this type of search is that for FindMyPast, you will have to view each individual transcription to see whether the person has children of an age that excludes your Ellen, whilst on Ancestry, you can just hover over where it shows 1891 census (for instance) and you will be able to see the transcription without having to open it.  That will save a lot of time, if you are searching through 100s of listings.

Happy Christmas and good hunting.

Lizzie

ps.  Overall, I prefer FindMyPast but subscribe to both as each has its plus points.

[nieve]

Hi Lizzie.   Well I have done as you suggested.   I went through 1891 census listing all the Ellens born in St.Helens and Prescot.   Had quite a long list.   Then I double checked all marriages, the 1881 and the 1901 census.   Everyone was accounted for but no Ellen Rooney.   What a fantastic way to pass time on whilst snowed in!!!   I have now given up, but I still find it so interesting tracking people's lives over 20 years.   Once a life of drudgery always a life of drudgery

[LizzieW]

Hi Nieve

Well at least you tried.

Happy New Year

Lizzie

[Mojave59]

Hi Nieve,
Yes we do clutch at straws and don't want to give up 

I don't think I think ( ) that she was in an institution really but that was one of my straws for Ellen and may be another route at some time.
Earlier you said that had there been anything untoward then your grandma would have known from the pavement gossip. If this were so, you would have thought that they would have known if she ran off with the local romeo too. Going off my mother- it would have been referred to in stage whispers 
My mother never revealed her family secret- we only discovered after her death - so people do keep secrets, especially if they affected status or morals.

good luck with St Helens.

heywood

There was an institution  named HAYDOCK LODGE ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD
just google for it.

ellis2159

[nieve]

Hi Ellis 2159.  Thank you for your interest and mentioning this Haydock Lodge.    I spent a good hour wading through and I think my best bet is  to put a letter together to St.Helens Local History and Archives Library as they seem to hold records.   Nieve

[northern_rose]

It looks like Lancashire Records Office (Preston) hold lots of records for this institution too. Some are specific to the individual and some are more general e.g. lists of patients in numerous years.

See
[url]http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqSearch=((text)='haydock%20lodge')&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=0&PF=Yes/[url]

[Mojave59]

Hi neive
Hope you are lucky with this,i will still keep a look out for you here in
St Helens.

Regards ellis2159

[nieve]

Thanks Northern Rose,   I will look into this as well.  it's all worth a try.   NIeve.