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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 December 09 18:32 GMT (UK) »
 :P I have been led to believe that Ancestry's transcriptions were the result of photo imageing software used by Ancestry rather than "real people" transcribing. Which in my head explained all the very many messy transcriptions, too obviously without any sense.

Was I wrong to think that all these years?!

Monica
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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 December 09 02:42 GMT (UK) »
Monica
As far as I know you are correct, on another forum it has been mentioned often that they use OCR, which is highly problematic in its interpretation of what it reads.
Stewie
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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 December 09 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Stewie  :) That was my understanding.

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 December 09 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Monica
As far as I know you are correct, on another forum it has been mentioned often that they use OCR, which is highly problematic in its interpretation of what it reads.
Stewie

They don't use OCR on handwritten text - only printed text, and even then it's unreliable.  Anyone who thinks transcription of records is easy should become an Ancestry World Archives Project volunteer keyer.  Even some typewritten records are hard to read, either because the typewriter was dirty, or the photographing of the record was badly exposed, or a combination of both.  Handwriting can be a nightmare.

On Ancestry there is a facility for suggesting transcription errors, which will be entered into the database for searches in the future.

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 December 09 17:28 GMT (UK) »
I don't think transcription explains a missing ancestor over many census.  All the census can't have been as badly written as Tati's example.

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 December 09 22:52 GMT (UK) »
It can in cases of surnames that are often mis-read (i.e. they look like more common names).  My grandmother's name was Hole, which was often as not mis-transcribed as Hale.  It's quite easy to look at a record and wonder why transcribers always got it wrong, but you are looking for the name (you already know it), but transcribers aren't.

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 December 09 23:10 GMT (UK) »
I'd heard that they sent some of the census transcribing to be done in countries where English is not even their first language.So they literally did type what they thought they saw.And not every well at that  ::)

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 December 09 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello all, My Grandfather's surname was "KING" but had been mis-transcribed as "HING."  I had never found him in 1871 but some keen eyed Rootschatters did!!!  Hooray for Rootschatters!  ;D  Pat
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: Beware Ancestry Web site unreliable
« Reply #17 on: Monday 07 December 09 10:21 GMT (UK) »
What happens now on new Ancestry projects is that each piece of paper is transcribed independently by two volunteer keyers.  Their results are then sent to an arbitrator, who will decide which is right, if the transcriptions are different.  If a keyer is found to be wrong, that knocks off a point from their accuracy rating.  Keyers with high accuracy scores are invited to become arbitrators.  So, if you see what you think you have seen a mistake in the latest Ancestry offerings, that mistake has been made by at least two people, if not three.  And it does happen - I was looking at a new release of postcards on Ancestry recently, and I noticed one or two "howlers".

 
RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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