Rudkin/Keightley

[Annie65115]

Well, I'm a quandary!

I have on my tree Roderick Rudkin marrying Mary Keightley in Blaby in 1804 but I don't know where I got that info from! I've looked at Ancestry trees and I see nearly everyone with this couple on their tree has the same info as I do, but I've never copied stuff wholesale from other trees -- I wonder where this info came from in the first place? Does anyone else have this family on their tree and are able to shed light on this?

I looked at the Blaby PRs and there is no record of this marraige -- now I see that IGI have an extracted record for the marraige of Roderick Rudkin and Mary GREEN at St Mary's, Leic, in 1802      I'll check this if can get to the records office again, and see who the witnesses were to see if that gives any clues (unless some kind reader has a resource that gives this info!)

In 1851 census, Mary's place of birth is shown as Baslow, Derbyshire and this has always puzzled me but IGI again gives the birth of Mary GREEN in Baslow in 1783 so this could be her. (In 1841, she was listed as born in Leicestershire)

After Roderick and Mary married, the name Keightley was given to several of their children and carried on over generations. It must have come from somewhere! Anyone have any ideas?

[Mike from Leicester]

 ......Seasonal Greeting’s Annie……..

Just checked out Leicestershire Marriages 1801 ~ 37

NO Records of a Roderick Rudkin ~ Mary Keighley… within the County

But in the Borough we get :~
 
St: Mary's Parish Church Leicester.

Roderick Rudkin. ~ Mary Green.
16th. August. 1802.
By Banns.

Also did a search in Baslow for a Keighley Marriage but drew a blank……

MIKE  

[Annie65115]

Xmas greetings to you too Mike! and thankyou for looking.

Where on earth did this Keightley name come from??

[Mike from Leicester]

Baptisms found…….

All Saints Parish Church. Blaby.

1805.

Joseph Keighley Rudkin.
Son of Roderick Rudkin & Mary née Keighley
23rd. May.

1807.
Samuel Keightley . Son of Roderick Rudkin & Mary née Keighley
14th. March.

1832.
19th. August.
Ann & Samuel Rudkin.
Son & Dau. of Roderick & Mary née KEATLEY.


Roderick a Bricklayer.

1833.

Mary Keatley Rudkin.
Roderick Keatley Rudkin.
Thomas Keatley Rudkin.
Bapt……25th August.

Sons & Dau of Samuel & Jane Rudkin.
He a Bricklayer.


The surname of Keightley could well be the Maiden name of a Grand Mother.......?
I’ve seen it where in the usual pecking order of naming Children
The middle name is given of the maiden name of the Mother of the Bride or Husband
But I can not remember which one it is …..Sorry.

MIKE.

[Annie65115]

My head spinneth 

I can't find Roderick's baptism - censuses say Newtown Linford about 1780. The person assumed to be his mother (Dorothy Rudkin, wife of Benjamin) died in summer 1780  (maybe from childbirth - maybe getting the bew baby baptised wasn't a priority?

So, Roderick Rudkin marries Mary Green in St Mary's in 1802 (both "of this parish"), witnesses Thomas Greene and Amelia Rudkin (older sis of Rod).

Their childrens' baptisms in Blaby give Mary's maiden name as Keightley. There was a Mary Keightley bapt in NL in 1783 - but the 1851 census gives Mary's birthplace as Baslow, Derbyshire.

There were several Keightleys on the NL PR's so a link between the families is perfectly possible. But why would the marraige reg say Green and the baptismal maiden name be Keightley? Are there any Green/Keightley links? (I can't find any). Did the first Mary die and Rod remarry Mary Keightley (but then why would the census say Baslow as pob)?

There are 4 pages of replies ot the other Rudkin thread. Mike, I am as always very grateful for your help but I know there are other Rudkin descendants on the boards, can we put our heads and resources together?!

[Richard Ashby]

Hi everyone

Any update on this please.

Thanks

Richard Ashby

[Annie65115]

Hello Richard

If you want an update on the Keightley name, there's another thread here on RC which goes into more detail. I settled on Baslow as Mary's pob and tracked her back from there. The line gets very tangled and difficult to clarify after a couple more generations in the Baslow area but I do have a DNA match which suggests that this is the right track (though neither of us can unravel Mary's ancestors to be certain which one!) PM me if you want specific info re this.