Lymmer and Porth Parish

[devonblue]

Hi,
I'm trying to do a bit more of a friend's tree for him for Christmas as he has hit a brick wall.

His Grandfather's marriage cert in 1905 says the groom Robert Palmer's residence was 'Parish of Lymmer & Porth, Glamorgan', his father was Edward Palmer deceased.

On the 1911 census  Robert said he was born in Pontypridd in 1880 but we can't find him on any other census.

Is the Parish of Lymmer and Porth part of Pontypridd? I have looked on Genuki Glamorgan and can't find it there and the four Pontypridd parishes seem to have different names.

Need a bit of local help with this one please.

Thank you

[osprey]

Is it not Cymmer?

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llantrisant/Cymmer/

Ill have a look at the census for you.

[devonblue]

It could be although the first letter really does look like an L or maybe (big maybe) a G.

Thanks for that, I'll have nose about as well.

[osprey]

what occupations are given for father and son on the marriage cert?

[osprey]

http://webapps.rhondda-cynon-taff.gov.uk/heritagetrail/rhondda/porth/porth.htm

[devonblue]

what occupations are given for father and son on the marriage cert?

No occupation for the father, just Edward Palmer deceased.  I have found an Edward Palmer in Kelly's Directory 1880, Inn keeper at the Bunch of Grapes, Pontypridd but am  unable to find him again in the census.

Robert Palmer's occupation is Hostler.  He married  Edith Troake in West Buckland Somerset and I have him in 1911 in Chelston, Wellington, Som where the family have remained to this day. 



Thank you for the link about Cymmer, I'll print that out for my friend.

BTW the Troake family is all sorted!

[heddwch]

Shot in the dark!
1881 census
Edward Palmer, Visitor age 40 widower, Born Blaenavon, Occ |Innnkeeper out of employment.
Living in 1 Tram Road ( now known as the Broadway)
 The Greyhound Pub, LLanwit Vaidre,( Pontypridd.)
Heddwch

[osprey]

in 1871 that Edward Palmer is with his wife Sarah, no children. Her death is registered aged 39 sept qtr 1879 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 169.

There are 2 Palmer boys registered Pontypridd sept qtr 1879, but neither is a Robert. Edward & Sarah are together are on the 1861 census and no children 10 years later, so it doesn't look like they're your Robert's parents, but nothing to say that Edward wasn't Robert's father and Robert is with his mother under another surname.

 

[devonblue]

Shot in the dark!
1881 census
Edward Palmer, Visitor age 40 widower, Born Blaenavon, Occ |Innnkeeper out of employment.
Living in 1 Tram Road ( now known as the Broadway)
 The Greyhound Pub, LLanwit Vaidre,( Pontypridd.)
Heddwch

Yes, I wondered about that one but  the same chap  (who was an innkeeper on previous censuses) didn't appear to have any children, then his wife died before Robert was born so obviously she wasn't his mother.

Oh I see Osprey found the same lot too! I wondered if Edward remarried but I can't seem to find him again after 1881.

I also can't find Robert in 1901, I wondered if by then he was in Somerset but he's not there either, seemingly.