What happened to Mary?

[toni*]

sorry to hear that she dies not belong to you

hopefully the next one will
(is hopefully the right word seeing as it is to do with a detah?)

[ssnowball]

After the arrival of yet another certificate today and still not related to my missing ancestor, I'm beginning to wonder!!
Update as follows in red:
Deaths Mar 1841   SNOWBALL  Mary    Hexham  25 230 (1841 Census taken on 6th June 1841 so this date will be too early. Mary Snowball in my tree appears on the 1841 Census)   
Deaths Sep 1841   SNOWBALL  Mary    Hexham  25 182 (This is Mary Snowball, spinster, aged 65, died of cancer
Deaths Jun 1842    SNOWBALL  Mary    Hexham  25 194 (This is Mary Snowball, aged 55, widow of John Snowball, farmer)
Deaths Dec 1842   SNOWBALL  Mary    S. Shields  24 125  (This is Mary Snowball, aged 66 years, wife of William Snowball, Blacksmith. Died of enteritis.
Deaths Sept 1842  SNOWBALL Mary    St. Geo. Han. Sq. 1  22 (Not sure about this London death but I guess it has to be pursued)
Deaths Dec 1845   SNOWBALL  Mary Jane    Hull  22 271  (Unlikely as christened Mary, not Mary Jane)
Deaths Mar 1847   SNOWBALL  Mary     Gateshead  24 133 (This is Mary Snowball, aged 12,daughter of John Snowball, joiner)
Deaths Dec 1847   SNOWBALL  Mary     Morpeth  25 250
Deaths Dec 1849   Snowball  Mary     Easingwold  24 293 (Not sure about this one either, which is probably a North Yorkshire branch of the Snowballs, unrelated to my side of the tree.)
Given my Mary Snowball's relation with her immediate family, I would have thought that any death would have been closely associated to the area in which they lived, namely Gateshead or Newcastle but this doesn't appear to be the case. 
As before, if anyone would like a scan or the copy of these death certificates drop me a PM and I'll gladly post out to you.

Steve

[toni*]

you're getting quite a collection of certificates there Steve, do we think she could have married  or moved out of the area by 1851?

[sillgen]

Do try giving possible details for your Mary to avoid any more wrong certificates.  You could quote her probable age for instance.  The local office are often more helpful about that sort of thing than the GRO who charge £3 to check details.  Would any of her family have left wills?   Sometimes they mention spinster daughters/sisters or  married ones or grandchildren which may help.
Andrea

[angelfish58]

The 1841 census has a Mary Snowball in the St George Hanover Square dist so I think you can cross that one off too or at least move it down the list. I would agree with you about the Yorkshire Snowballs too. Also in 1841 there are two Mary's in East Yorks but neither in Hull (one Bridlington dist the other Beverley)

[ssnowball]

Hi Toni and Andrea and Angelfish

Thanks for your responses, which were coming in thick and fast, as I typed!

Well, you're right that the bundle of certificates getting ever fatter and the bank balance ever slimmer. as a result! I had given GRO the possible dates but they have forwarded the certificates nontheless. The local office is my next stop, so thanks for the tip.

I must say that at one time, marriage appeared to be solution but it has to be between the 1841 and 1851 censuses. I can only find reference to Mary Snowball's marriage in June 1843 (Hexham 25/291) which is the marriage to Richard Ord, already mentioned. This is the only marriage of a Mary Snowball I can find within the area where she lived and between those dates. There are some other Mary's but are mostly from Yorkshire or are for a Mary Ann Snowball.

The Mary Snowball who married Richard Ord (a tailor) was given on the 1851 Census as living in Hexham and
aged 30, so the birth date would be about right but place of birth given as Whearmley. Where is that? I've Googled and can't find this place, so assume it's a transcription error recorded 'as heard', so there may have been some confusion over spelling. Then again, it might be known locally.

I haven't yet checked on wills, Andrea, as I was following the most obvious evidence source (or so I thought!) in the first instance, namely the certificates. My Mary's brothers were successful businessmen, especially older brother James, who owned the Whickham colliery and firebick works and went on to become an Alderman in Gateshead. Her younger brother William owned the Snowball and Son store in Gateshaed, the first department store and often referred to as the 'Harrod's of the North'! They should provide a source of wills, given their own large families and financial status.

Thanks for all the help, so far

Steve

[ssnowball]

Hi Toni and Andrea and Angelfish

Thanks for your responses, which were coming in thick and fast, as I typed!

Well, you're right that the bundle of certificates is getting ever fatter and the bank balance ever slimmer. as a result! I had given GRO the possible dates but they have forwarded the certificates nontheless. The local office is my next stop, so thanks for the tip.

I must say that at one time, marriage appeared to be a solution but it has to be between the 1841 and 1851 censuses. I can only find reference to Mary Snowball's marriage in June 1843 (Hexham 25/291) which is the marriage to Richard Ord, already mentioned. This is the only marriage of a Mary Snowball I can find within the area where she lived and between those dates. There are some other Mary's but are mostly from Yorkshire or are for a Mary Ann Snowball.

The Mary Snowball who married Richard Ord (a tailor) was given on the 1851 Census as living in Hexham and
aged 30, so the birth date would be about right but place of birth given as Whearmley. Where is that? I've Googled and can't find this place, so assume it's a transcription error recorded 'as heard', so there may have been some confusion over spelling. Then again, it might be known locally.

I haven't yet checked on wills, Andrea, as I was following the most obvious evidence source (or so I thought!) in the first instance, namely the certificates. My Mary's brothers were successful businessmen, especially older brother James, who owned the Whickham colliery and firebick works and went on to become an Alderman in Gateshead. Her younger brother William owned the Snowball and Son store in Gateshead, the first department store and often referred to as the 'Harrod's of the North'! They should provide a source of wills, given their own large families and financial status.

Thanks for all the help, so far

Steve

[JenB]

place of birth given as Whearmley. Where is that? I've Googled and can't find this place, so assume it's a transcription error recorded 'as heard', so there may have been some confusion over spelling. Then again, it might be known locally.

Far better than just Googling the place name - try Genuki Northumbria, and the place-name index http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Gazetteer/NBL_W.html which doesn't give Whearmley, but does give Wharmley, which might well be the place referred to in the 1851 census.

Jennifer

[ssnowball]

Thanks Jennifer
I had tried GENUKI but had gone to the towns and parishes page at http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Parishes.html#W, where both Whearmley and Wharmley don't appear.
Your link was, by far, much better.
Wharmley is not Mary's place of birth, however, so now at least it's totally eliminated the 'marriage to Richard Ord' theory.

Steve