Looking for Bridget Spiegelhalter of Maesteg

[spiegelhalter]

Hi Kyrenia

I would be interested to know your connection to the Spiegelhalter's of Maestag as I have been trying to link them into the Spiegelhalter tree which was researched by two of my distant cousins back to the early 1600's in the Black Forest in Baden Germany . We are fairly certain that all the Spiegelhalters who were clockmakers/ jewellers and came to the British Isles in the 19th century are related somehow.
By coincidence my great uncle George Spiegelhalter known as Halter (1902-1985) born in Dalston, London lived nearby in Skewen near Neath for most of his life. He worked for BP. 

Regards
Spiegelhalter

[Greenwoman]

Help Please!
Does anyone have any information on a Bridget Spiegelhalter she is thought to of died in the 1950's in Maesteg but she doesen't show on  BMD index also no trace of her husband Emil.
Thanks for any information or help

Hi!  A friend guided me to this forum because she read this thread and knew I'd be interested

My name is Meryl [nee Spiegelhalter] and I live in Maesteg.  Emil and Bridget were my great uncle and aunt.

Emil had 3 brothers and one sister: Arthur, Arnold, Hector and Gladys.

Hector and his wife Glenys were my grandparents and Hector had his own watchmakers/jewellers shop in Maesteg.

Gladys never married and had no children, she died a few years back in Liverpool, but Arnold is still living in Furtwagen in the Black Forest with his wife Louise and their 3 grown up daughters.

Emil's son, also called Arnold, is living in Ireland at the moment with his girlfriend and her son.

Hector and Glenys had 2 children, Arthur and Myra.  Arthur is my dad.

Hector and Glenys, *Emanuelle and Hilda [*I think, I'll have to check] and young Arthur Leo are buried in Maesteg cemetary...all in the same grave.

If you want any more information, let me know and I'll ask my dad 

[Greenwoman]

Hector and Glenys, *Emanuelle and Hilda [*I think, I'll have to check] and young Arthur Leo are buried in Maesteg cemetary...all in the same grave.

Update:

I just checked with my dad and he said that Emanuelle and Hilda died and were buried in Furtwagon [Black Forest]....and their names are merely mentioned on Arthur Leo's and my grandparent's headstone.

He also told me that Bridget was Emil's first wife.  Her maiden name was Bridget Walsh.  Bridget also had a son ~ Tommy Walsh.  My dad thinks he was in the RAF.

Bridget is definately buried in Ireland somewhere, but nobody seems to know where, maybe Emil's son Arnold would know.  Arnold is currently living in Gallway. 


Like I said before, if you need any other information on the surviving family members, ie: Arnold [Emil's brother] and Arnold [Emil's son], let me know 

[CHICAGO LINDA]

I  am a descendant of the Spiegelhalter/Speigelhalter family from the Black Forest through my grandmother .
Her grandparents (Bauerle & Duffner) went to England @ 1865 and worked for a watchmaker in Meadway, Rochester, Kent.
In 1871, they moved to Chicago, USA and became saloon keepers.

My Immigrant ancestor: Quirin Bauerle born 1835  son of
7 Teresia SPIEGELHALTER b 1810 & Valentin Bauerle b 1811
   6 George...1784-1849
      5 Severin 1751 in Waldau-1816,
       4 Christian II 1727-1797
         3 Andreas 1672-1740
            2 Christian I 6-Jan-1642 to 19-Jan1687
                .... b.(Bauer am Rhine), Viertaler, Neustadt, Baden
                .... d. Rainhof, Waldau, Schwarzwald

             1 Bartholemew SPIEGELHALDER b: Bef. 1622 &
                                       Barbara GANTER

[spiegelhalter]

Hi Linda

I am Betty you have been in contact with Julian my 6th cousin once removed.
I descend from Andreas Sp the younger brother of Severin his grand-daughter my 3xgt grandmother Maria born 1822 Waldau was your 3xgt grandmother Theresa's 2nd cousin. Which makes us 7th cousins

I posted a message on this site because Bridget is a descendent of  Emmanuel Spiegelhalter who settled in Maestag ,South Wales in late 19th C  I am trying to find out if and where he fits into our Spiegelhalter tree.  I have since received a response from Greenwoman but until now due unforseen problems not had time to get back to her.  But I will now make the effort. 

I have your e-mail address so will contact you on that in future.


 

[CHICAGO LINDA]

Hi,

I am away from home...I'll check my  info when I get home...
Ich bin ein Nachkomme der Spiegelhalter von der Schwarzwald. Mein Ur-Urgroßvater
Quirin Bäuerle geboren 1835 seinen Vater: Valentin Bäuerle geboren 1811 Seine Mutter: Teresia Spiegelhalter geboren 1810 Nachkomme
George...1784-1849
Severin 1751 in Waldau-1816,
Christian II 1727-1797
Andreas 1672-1740
Christian I born 1640-1687 (Bauer am Rhine)


I am a descendant of the Spiegelhalters from the Blac k Forest.
My Immigrant ancestor: Quirin Bauerle born 1835
His Father: Valentin Bauerle born 1811
His Mother: Teresia Spiegelhalter born 1810
descendant of
George...1784-1849
Severin 1751 in Waldau-1816,
Christian II 1727-1797
Andreas 1672-1740
Christian I 6-Jan-1642 to 19-Jan1687
.... b.(Bauer am Rhine), Viertaler, Neustadt, Baden d. Rainhof, Waldau, Schwarzwald

Bartholemew SPIEGELHALDER b: Bef. 1622 & Barbara GANTER


More later, Linda

[CHICAGO LINDA]

PS  7th  cousins...Wow That's amazing !!!

[jessam]

Hi Linda

I am Betty you have been in contact with Julian my 6th cousin once removed.
I descend from Andreas Sp the younger brother of Severin his grand-daughter my 3xgt grandmother Maria born 1822 Waldau was your 3xgt grandmother Theresa's 2nd cousin. Which makes us 7th cousins

I posted a message on this site because Bridget is a descendent of  Emmanuel Spiegelhalter who settled in Maestag ,South Wales in late 19th C  I am trying to find out if and where he fits into our Spiegelhalter tree.  I have since received a response from Greenwoman but until now due unforseen problems not had time to get back to her.  But I will now make the effort. 

I have your e-mail address so will contact you on that in future.

 

  Bridget was not a descendant of the Spiegelhalters,  (she was married before  Emil and her name was Walsh) she came  into the  Spiegelhalter family when she married Emil Spiegelhalter ,  they went to live in Ireland where Bridget died and is buried in Limerick,  Emil then married again to Catherine,  and they had a son Arnold who now lives in Galway.   Emil and Catherine have also now died.
 

[welsh_angel]

Is there a possibility that they changed their surname when war broke out because it sounded too German. This was quite a common thing to do. Remember how the Royal Family changed their German name during WW1?

The only other explanation for them disappearing off the radar is, they could have moved outside England and Wales. But you've said that you know they died in Maesteg. So, the change of name could be an option