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Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« on: Thursday 17 December 09 02:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

As a Northerner who has only recently discovered Middlesex relatives, I've struggled with this for a couple of hours so thought I would turn it over to you guys :)

My paternal grandmother's middle sister (still living) married Ronald Albert Archer, who was in the RAF during WW2 and was sadly killed in action a mere six months after they married.

Ronald was born in late 1917/early 1918 (registered Q1 1918 Hendon Vol 3a Page 492) and his parents were Frederick Albert and Maude (nee Johns). I found their marriage in the LMA records on Ancestry (27 Nov 1915, Harrow) and that told me that Frederick's father was Albert Archer.

From Frederick's age at marriage, he would have been born in about 1893, and there's a matching birth on FreeBMD in Hendon in the September of that year. However, this is where it gets tricky... the volume number is given as 3a, but the middle digit in the page number is unreadable on the index scan - it's given as 1_9. I've done a manual search of FreeBMD replacing the middle digit with every number between 0 and 9 and it's not turning anything up :( I've also tried searching the Baptism/Christening records on Ancestry and can't find one that fits. FreeBMD states that the expected page range for this district is 159 to 243, but I've checked the image and it's definitely 1_9.

All help gratefully appreciated :)

Katie
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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 December 09 04:00 GMT (UK) »
A probability in 1901

1901
Lime Kiln Cottage, Waxwell, Pinner, Hendon
Emily ARCHER, head wid 67, Laundress, born Middlesex, Pinner
Albert ARCHER, son mar 35, Gardener domestic, born ditto
Mary A ARCHER, dau in law mar 40, born Kent, Shepherdswell
Frederick A ARCHER, s in law 7, born Middlesex, Pinner
RG13/1210/29/49

Albert's occupation matches with that on his marriage.

Albert was single in 1891, so likely marriage is Albert ARCHER and Mary Ann FOX, Dec qtr 1892, Dover

1891
Chalk Pits, Pinner
Joseph ARCHER, head mar 67, Gen labourer, born Herts, watford
Emily ARCHER, wife mar 59, Laundress, born Middlesex, Pinner
Albert ARCHER, son unm 24, Gardener, born ditto
next page
Herbert ARCHER, son unm 20, Gardener, born ditto
Ada ARCHER, dau 13, Scholar, born ditto
May E CONYSBEARE, grand dau 1, born ditto
RG12/1040/103/17&18

A couple of houses away is a Mary A ARCHER aged 35, servant, born Herts, Watford, a likely sister of Albert.

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 December 09 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the original image for Frederick Albert's birth registration it looks like 3a 159 to me.

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 December 09 12:09 GMT (UK) »
No Archer birth on 3a 159 for that quarter :( Stuck...
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway


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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 December 09 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Also looks like 3a 159 to me (might perhaps be 3a 169).

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 December 09 00:33 GMT (UK) »
His baptism does appear to be on A....y:

Frederick Albert Archer bp.27/8/1893 St. Martin, West Drayton son of Albert and Mary Archer.

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 December 09 01:00 GMT (UK) »
Born 1893 May 24, with Albert's occupation gardener, which probably clinches it.

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 December 09 06:40 GMT (UK) »
How did you find the birth date, Ian? I can only get the baptism date, not that Ancestry will allow me to attach the record as a source  >:(

Thanks,
Katie
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway

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Re: Searching for Frederick Albert Archer's parents
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 December 09 06:51 GMT (UK) »
From the PRs on LMA on A******y.

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