stuck on one person!

[carol8353]

In 1901 they are mistranscribed as Barday 

Living in Bromley,Poplar.

Thomas Barclay head 40 matchmaker (!) b Bromley
Ellen wife 42 b Bromley
Thomas son 14  errand boy b Poplar
Ellen dau 12 b Bromley

RG13/349 Folio 143 Page 33

Is this them- ages of kids seem too old for an 1892 marriage!

It would make Ellen b 1859 too 
But the being born Bromley fits .....unless you have the wrong one in 1911?

Carol

[heywood]

When was Ellen born?

There is this,transcribed as Barday in 1901

1901 RG13; Piece: 349; Folio: 143; Page: 33
Whiteshorn   Street Bromley

Thomas Barclay 40 yrs match maker b Bromley
Ellen  42 yrs b Bromley
Thomas  14 yrs Errand boy b Poplar
Ellen  12 yrs b Bromley

[heywood]

sorry 

[dixielandlinda]

I believe they had the children before they got married! theres a big age gap between the 2 older and my nan who was born 1901! i have her death as december 1937 aged 78.on the 1911 census she is listed as 52 and thomas is 50 yet when they wed it read that she was 28 and he was 30!her age seems to vary a great deal!

[heywood]

Could the older children be from a different marriage- do you have their birth certificates naming their mother?

[carol8353]

That does seem to be the right family as they tally with these in 1911.

Thomas 50 labour clerk  all born Bromley
Ellen wife married 25 years(yeah right  ) Bryant mays match  
Thomas son 25 labourer docks
Ellen dau 22 same job as mum
Eliza dau 9

At 14 Hawgood St Bromley East.

Carol

[carol8353]

Can't find any of them in 1891 though- but have to go to bed now.
Hubby's already gone 

Carol

[heywood]

Birth: 1860 Thomas Wyatt Barclay

[dixielandlinda]

yes this is the correct family but i still havent discovered ellen seniors birthdate or found her mothers name etc seems her age varies so much its difficult to find a birthdate!