Harriet Smith of Molton, Norfolk

[slpowers]

Hi All:

I am new to this forum and am looking for info on an ancestor from Norfolk, Molton, England.

Harriet Smith (about as common a name as you can get it seems!)

I found her on the 1871 and 1881 census records of Woolwich, Kent - info as follows:

Age in 1881 - 39 (born abt 1842)
From Molton, Norfolk, England

Married to John Stark abt 1863 (possibly earlier).

I appreciate any information that might be provided.

Sharron (Toronto, Canada)

[Anjo]

Could this be her in 1851??? This is Molton in Devonshire though
There isn't a Molton in norfolk. There is however a Melton in Norfolk but there is no Harriet Smith born there. Did it say on both census that she was born in Molton, Norfolk??


William Smith Head  32   Carrier      b. south Molton, Dev
Grace      "       Wife  33  former house serv b. George Nympton
Ellen        "        dau   9                       b. South Molton, Dev
Harriet     "        dau   7                                   "
William     "        son   6                                   "
Mary        "         dau  4                                    "
John         "         son  2                                    "
James       "         son 1                                     "
Henry       "          son 4mts                               "

Living New road, South Molton, Devonshire

HO/107/1891   folio  559    page 32    film  0221042

Only Harriet listed as being born in South Molton, Devonshire.

Hope I haven't confused you but thought you should see this just in case

All the best Angela.

[slpowers]

Hi Angela:

Thank you for taking the time to research this!  When I wrote my request, I had viewed the 1871 written census record and the name of the town wasn't clear.  But I have since found the 1881 census  and other information which clearly shows Hariett's birth place as Molton, Norfolk, England or simply Norfolk, England.

I'm at a bit of a loss unfortunately... I have tried to locate a Molton, Norfolk, England as well but without success.  I don't know what to think.

Thanks for your help in any case.  Regards, Sharron

[Anjo]

Hi Sharron,

                   I looked at the 1871 census onward and it does look like Molton. I tried google searching but came up with nothing. Its a real mystery. Then I found a Moulton on the 1861 place name index so maybe that could be it. Couldn't find a Harriet on the 1851 or 1861 but there were other Smiths. So that looks promising. Maybe Harriets family moved away from the area and maybe settled in Woolwich where she met John and Married.  Did you ever find a marriage cert for them? that would at least give you her fathers name and hopefully a bit more info.

I wish you all the luck with them. all the best Angela.

[casalguidi]

Hi Sharron

There are several Moultons in Norfolk - see Blofield district, Depwade district ......................

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/nfk.htm

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[slpowers]

Hi Angela & Casalguidi

Yes it is a mystery!  It might very well be spelled be Moulton - the information was taken  by someone doing the census in Kent, they may not have know how to spell it... I think that's a good possibility.  I've found numerous misspellings of place and individual's name over the course of my research.

I will continue the search for information that may help to unravel this piece of the puzzel.

Appreciate your help.

Regards, Sharron

[jongleuse]

Hi Sharron,

Did you ever have any luck?
I have found these:

1861 England Census > Essex > Walthamstow > District 5

Markhouse Place
David Smith born Boiton, Norfolk, Head Mar 48 Labourer
Caroline Smith born Burnham, Norfolk, Wife Mar 48 Labourer Wife
Harriett Smith born Molton, Norfolk, Daughter Un 20 Labourer Daughter
Sarah Smith born Tottenham, Middlesex, Daughter Un 15 Labourer Daughter
George Smith born Tottenham, Middlesex, Son 12  Labourer Son 
William Smith born Tottenham, Middlesex, Son 10 Labourer Son
Robert Smith born Tottenham, Middlesex, Son 6 Labourer Son
Thomas Smith born Tottenham, Middlesex, Son 4 Labourer Son

[slpowers]

Thank you so much for your email.  I actually came across this census through the 1837 online.com site and it's a very good bet this is the person I am looking for.

I have slowed my research for the summer so haven't had a chance to verify my information.

Thanks again, Sharron

[jongleuse]

You probably found these, but if not they may help you when you start again.

all IGI

David Smith married Caroline Bunn
03 FEB 1835   Moulton By Cantley, Norfolk, England
This is probably now Moulton St Mary

David Smith  Birth:  14 AUG 1810   
Christening:  02 SEP 1810   Beighton, Norfolk, England
Father Thomas Smith, Mother Ann

Thomas Smith married Ann Davy
23 JUN 1801   Beighton, Norfolk, England

Children
LUKE SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 MAY 1802
Christening: 09 MAY 1802 Beighton, Norfolk, England
Death: 09 JUN 1802
THOMAS SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 16 AUG 1803 Beighton, Norfolk, England
JAMES SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 16 AUG 1803 Beighton, Norfolk, England
ENOCH SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 24 AUG 1807 Beighton, Norfolk, England
DAVID SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 14 AUG 1810 Beighton, Norfolk, England

all the above submitted by a member of the LDS Church
IGI batch number 7707407 might be worth searching for more Smiths

IGI Church Record for Runham
Caroline Bunn Birth:  22 FEB 1812   
Christening:  01 MAR 1812   Runham, Norfolk, England
Father:  ROBERT BUNN  Family
Mother:  SARAH FRANKLAM
IGI batch number C041391

IGI
Robert Bunn married Sarah Frankham
30 NOV 1802   Acle, Norfolk, England
submitted by a member of the LDS Church
IGI batch number A184637

I think someone has been doing the same research ;-)

All these places are within a few miles of each other in Blofield district with Acle at the centre.
www.streetmap.co.uk has detailed maps
www.old-maps.co.uk has 1890 map
It's a very pretty area
http://www.edp24.co.uk/Broads/asp/History.asp

1861 census rg9 1219 page5 Unthank Road
James Smith un 57 House Servant born Reighton, Norfolk

Good luck
Jessica