HOUGH Joseph & Sarah

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Thanks for all the info Lisa.
The Thomas HOUGH really throws me. 
My Joseph did have a brother Thomas but he was age 17 on the 1841 census in Derbyshire and I am/was sure that I traced this Thomas HOUGH through to 1901 on the British census.
Thanks for the "find a grave website" it is great. All I have to do is prove that the Joseph HOUGH buried there is my Joseph.
Do you know what info would be on his death cert.
Or would it be better to get marriage cert to Lydia POST/COLE 18 Oct 1865 (Names and date taken from find a grave website)  Would the marriage cert show his birth place and parents names??
Also how do I get a BMD cert from the USA from here in Australia.
Cheers Leonie

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Leoni,   just  barging in with my 2 cents for whatever it is not worth .......I wouldn't get too hung up with the age on a passenger list being off if other pieces are fitting together and can be considered probable.  Ages for my lot on passenger lists has rarely been accurate!!     Not sure about this but the cost of the passage might have been less for younger ages --  so have wondered if some ages were "fudged" for that reason  or the purser just was a poor estimator or not accurate in recording the info   

Even on census entries, people often mis-remembered their immigration year.  That can vary significantly also.    No little plastic laminated cards in their pocket and probably didn't perceive it as information to be remembered. 

Information on vital records is going to varying by locality, time frame, what was required, what is accessible now. If they were of legal age when they married, parents name might not be indicated.  Consider yourself lucky if you find a marriage, birth or death record at all!  It can be most challenging!

For New Jersey, you can try here   (hope the link works okay!)  There maybe some coverage here for the time frame you need.

http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/archives.html


  lissaM

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Thanks LissaM for the webstie.
I found the marriage of Joseph HOUGH listed twice
18 Oct 1865 Joseph HOUGH (widower) to Lydia COLE, Passaic, Morris Co, Jefferson
18Oct 1865 Joseph HOUGH (widower) to Lydia POST, West Milford, Passaic Co West Milford.
I presume that the info on both certs would be the same


From the USA census info given by Lisa, Thomas HOUGH  only appears with Joseph and Sarah on the 1850 census. I checked the 1880 census and couldnt  find a match for him. Can any one find him on the 1860 & 1870 census?
Cheers Leonie

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Hi Leoni,  glad you found something helpful. 

It could be that Lydia was a widow (or divorced) and one name is her previous marriage and the other name is her maiden.  I have seen in other records with the two name entries

Didn't Lisa in California find him in 1860 and 1870 above  or maybe I'm misunderstanding 

lissaM

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Leoni,  check 1880 again   I think I  found him in Jefferson, Morris Co., NJ  Joseph Hough b. 1821 in England with wife Lidde A Hough and children John, Mary and Jane still at home. Occupation Farmer

 
lissaM

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Hi Lissa
I was wondering about Thomas HOUGH was aged 14(12 on the shipping records 1850) on the 1850 census listed with Joseph and Sarah. He is not with Joseph and Sarah on the 1860 census.
 I am still trying to work out who this Thomas could be. Son, brother, stepson?
Cheers Leonie

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duh...sorry into the egg nog    lost out that we weren't looking for Joseph.   

So regardless of whether 12 or 14 (easy errors) Thomas would be an adult in 1860 and 1870  and has possibly moved elsewhere.....  will look.

Joseph would not have had a son with a wife prior to Sarah ??

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Not seeing a match up for Thomas which doesn't mean anything, really....  just that he is not found!

So  I assume the big question remains as to whether he returned to England in between census periods in both countries ??

Any likely deaths in England for him?  Is he in Derbyshire through the 1901 ??

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Thanks for looking LissaM
Yes Thomas might have returned to England with Samuel Lander HOUGH.
I will have a look for him.
Cheers Leonie