whitelaw

[rawlinson]

hi, i,m looking for any info on my g.grandfather thomas whitelaw born c1882
all i have on him is he married margaret orrell 24 april 1905,st nicholas church liverpool .on the cert it states he was 23 and a mariner living in blackstone st liverpool ,his father also was named thomas whitelaw,mariner.thats all i know of him,dont know his mothers name,where he was born ,when he died,if he married again,because his wife margaret married again in 1919 to a david c thomas.
 thanks.......................rawlinson.

[jvy20]

Hi,

This may be him on 1891 Census

231 Atholl Street, Liverpool

Thomas Whitelaw Head 28 Sailor  can't read place of birth
Margaret Whitelaw Wife 25 House keeper b Liverpool
John Whitelaw son 7 ?? b Liverpool
Thomas Whitelaw son 4 b Liverpool

RG12/2903 folio 60 page 54

1901 26 Shadwell Liverpool

 Thomas Whitelaw Head 42 Seaman
 Margaret Whitelaw wife 37
 Joseph Whitelaw son single 19 seaman
 Thomas Whitelaw son single 14 seaman
Patrick Whitelaw son 9
Martyn Whitelaw son 5

RG13/ 3409 folio 102 page 32

Regards

John

[rawlinson]

thanks john ....rawlinson

[garstonite]

Ok so we have in the 1891 census Thomas jnr aged 4,,,so he wasn`t born c1882...more like 1886...how about

Thomas Whitelaw b Dec Qtr 1886 Liverpool 8b 6 on freebmd..
On Lancashirebmd
Thomas Whitelaw /Margaret Orrell 1905 Liverpool Our Lady &St Nicholas & St Anne ref 2053LP/91/204

so the birth  cert would suggest that Thomas Whitelaw was in fact only 19 when he married Margaret...not of age ...maybe he lied about his age for this reason?....also I cannot find this marriage on freebmd , so..if they married BEFORE Dec Qtr 1905 Thomas would in fact have only been 18..
....allan
ADDED
I can`t find a death to match Thomas Whitelaw b 1886 agewise on freebmd....there is however on CWGC only one possible for WW1

Private Thomas Whitelaw 3rd Dragoon Guards Prince of Wales Own...service number 6024...died 2nd June 1916......allan

[wozzle]

could this be the fathers marriage
name; john thomas whitelaw
y.o.r. 1882
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; liverpool
vol; 8b
paage; 357
on the same page amongst others; margaret edwards

[wozzle]

it was john thomas whitelaw who married margaret edwards  in 1882 at liverpool reg.office

[garstonite]

on Lancashirebmd Wozzle
1882 Whitelaw John T / Edwards Margaret Liverpool register office or Registrar attended  Liverpool REG LP/177/140
allan

[andrewalston]

Might this be Margaret in 1911?

20 Bala St Bootle Lancashire
RG14PN22425 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED19 SN151

WORRALL, Robert H Head Married M 24 1887 Carter  Lancs Kirkdale
WORRALL, Agnes Wife Married 3 years F 24 1887  Lancs Gt Crosby
WHITELAW, Margaret Sister In Law Married 6 years F 29 1882  Lancs Gt Crosby
WHITELAW, Florence Visitor Niece  F 5 1906  Lancs Walton
WHITELAW, Margaret Mary Visitor Niece  F 4 1907  Lancs Liverpool

The marriage date is right, and it implies that Thomas was still alive then.

[andrewalston]

This looks like Margaret's familiy in 1901 (transcribed as Corell)

17 William Henry St Bootle
RG13/3460  ED 13 Folio 43 Page 8

James Orrell, Head, 46, Dock labourer, born Crosby
Ellen do, Wife, 39, born Crosby
Margaret do, daur, 19, born Crosby
Agnes do, daur, 14, General servant, born Crosby
Ellen do, daur <--crossed out
Mary do, daur <--crossed out
James do, son, 8, born Litherland
Sarah E do, daur, 4, born Bootle
Annie do, daur, 12, born Linacre