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Offline Philcandy

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Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« on: Tuesday 05 January 10 04:19 GMT (UK) »
Dear listers

I have two requests, if someone is able to help me:

1. If anyone is going to the Wiltshire Record Office, would they mind having a look at the will for Robert CANDY of Sedgehill in 1808 (Ref No. P2/1808/42)  I am interested to see who he mentions as his children and beneficiaries.

2.  I am intrigued by a James CANDY, born about 1754, died in March 1796 in Sedgehill. He married Rachel TROUBRIDGE on 27 Sep 1779 at Sedgehill, and they had eight children (the youngest one, Charles, being born after James died).  The question is: where was James from?

Any help or suggestions would be very gratefully received.

Kind regards  and thanks in advance

Phil Candy
Toowoomba, Australia

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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Phil

I'm happy to do the Will lookup for you sometime in the next couple of weeks.

Regarding James, I presume you have eliminated Sedgehill for a baptism and if he left a Will it gives no clues as to his origin.  Although I live close to the WSRO I'm not a native of Wiltshire and my local geography is pretty poor, hopefully someone else will be able to give you guidance on adjoining parishes and population movements 250 years ago.

regards
Jane
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BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Jane. That's really kind of you.  From what I've been able to figure out, Robert's wife died back in 1782, so if he left a Will 26 years later, it seems likely that he would have mentioned at least some of his children.

I can't say that I've eliminated Sedgehill as a place for James to have come from.  But I have cast a pretty wide net for sources that are already online, so I'm hoping that someone may have already done some research into that family or else have access to transcripts that can't (yet) be searched from here. For instance, the coverage of freereg for Wiltshire seems a bit patchy at present.

In any case. I hope someone will spot this request for help; in the meantime, many thanks for being willing to have a look at Robert CANDY's Will for me (weather permitting!)

I'll look forward to hearing from you again.

Kind regards

Phil Candy



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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 January 10 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Phil

Robert CANDY very scratchily signed his Will on 17th July 1802 at which time he was describing himself as a yeoman.

Although quite easy to read I found it confusing, hopefully with your knowledge of the family it will make more sense to you.  The spelling is also quite variable, with the same words being written in a variety of ways!  I looked at the original document because it's not been digitised yet but it will be eventually, at which point you'll be able to order a copy online.  Or if you want a photocopy before that, I believe the record office will do this for you and post it out to you snail mail, not sure of their charges though.  As you're overseas they might be prepared to email you a photocopy.  The Will is only one page (would need to be copied onto A3) and the same for the administration.

beneficiaries:

daughter Marys (sic) ??? could be Elzth, word "seven" written above - age? - £20 cash
daughter Elisabeth Brachers, word "seven" written above, £20 cash
daughter Sarah Baker £150
son in law Jno Brachor £30
son John Candy one shilling
daughter Martha Lush one shilling
son Robert Candy of East Knoyle £100 in trust
"remains over and above parted in 6 partments to my six (word "six" struck out) sons and daughters."

Something about utterly disallow Brooks and Disamul (???), I couldn't make a lot of sense of it, perhaps a reference to an earlier Will that favoured these individuals.

At the end there is a note about grandchildren which only makes sense to me if the two individuals named first on the Will are grand-daughters rather than daughters.
"As for my grandchildren at their several respective ages of 21 years and in case any or either of my grandchildren shall die under the age my Will and meaning is that the survivors shall be entitled to the £20 intended for each child."

That's the essence of the Will.

Administration was granted 7th December 1808 to Robert Candy, "one of the lawful sons of the deceased and principal legatee named in the Will, no executor or executrix being appointed".  Robert signed his acceptance (quite a neat signature).

Sadly I've not managed to find anything on James CANDY, there was no baptism indexed at Sedgehill, no Sarum marriage licence bond indexed for anyone by that name and (as I'm sure you know) no Will.  If you have a FindMyPast subscription they have indices to death duty registers but not the death duty records themselves.  FindMyPast does have a James CANDY marriage in Somerset in 1796, if he was a widower when he married Rachel that might be him, as Somerset adjoins Wiltshire and Sedgehill is pretty close to the Somerset border.

Best wishes
Jane
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BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD


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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Dear Jane

Thank you so much for this excellent and very helpful transcription.

It adds so much colour to what I had managed to glean from the Parish records. Imagine leaving just one shilling each to his children John and Martha, and one hundred pounds to Robert junior. That must say something about the family dynamics!

I am hugely grateful to you for doing this lookup for me, and for taking the time and trouble to post it all.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 June 23 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Phil ... Hopefully you are still active

It sounds like you are referring to my 5th Great Grandfather, Robert Candy 1712-1808
He was born in Semley, Wiltshire and died in Sedgehill
Robert married Martha Collins (1720 - ???) in 1740 in Berwick St Leonards, Wiltshire
I have his father as also being Robert but no details - wife unknown

The family appears to have ended up in Donhead St Mary

I have 3 children from Robert and Martha
Martha 1747-1834 ... married William Lush in 1764
Robert 1749-1813
John 1752-1825

The eldest son, of Robert and Martha, Robert b1749 is my 4th ggf - he lived in East Knoyle and married twice
His first wife appears to have been Hannah Boyce from Somerset - they have 5 children, all born in Sedgehill

Robert's second wife was Ann Harding, from Woodstock, Oxfordshire - they had 5 boys, all born in East Knoyle. Their 4th son, Thomas, my 3rd ggf married a Carolina Boyce

The second son, of Robert and Martha, is John b1752
John also appears to have married twice, first to Mary Matthews and then Elizabeth Mathews
Robert became the tenant of Lower Berrycourt Farm in Donhead St Marys (200 acres)
The family remained occupier of Lower Berrycourt Farm for about 100 years




30 of 32 paternal 4th great-grand-parents: b1749-1793

Dunn / Clark m Smith / Guthrie -- Thomson / Scott m Robertson / Baxter
Ballantyne / Watson m Tait / Kyle -- King / Hall m Norman / Browne

Candy / Harding m Boyce / Jacob -- Woodland / Holland m Law / Stedman
Johnston / Taylor m Robertson / Spence -- Ferguson / ? m Lister / ?

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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 June 23 18:49 BST (UK) »
From reference, this is the local geography

East Knoyle is about 6km West of Tilsbury and about 3km North East of Sedgehill
All three are small villages - East Knoyle pop. 1000, Tilsbury pop. 2000 & Sedgehill pop. 200

Semley is 4km South South East of East Knoyle
Donhead St Mary is 7km South South East of East Knoyle
Berwick St Leonard is 5km North East of East Knoyle
30 of 32 paternal 4th great-grand-parents: b1749-1793

Dunn / Clark m Smith / Guthrie -- Thomson / Scott m Robertson / Baxter
Ballantyne / Watson m Tait / Kyle -- King / Hall m Norman / Browne

Candy / Harding m Boyce / Jacob -- Woodland / Holland m Law / Stedman
Johnston / Taylor m Robertson / Spence -- Ferguson / ? m Lister / ?

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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 June 23 18:38 BST (UK) »
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Google Books (Robert CANDY, Sedgehill) 

List of Officers in the Bengal Army, 1758-1834 - Part 1 - Page 299


'Just a snippet'

CANDY, Francis (1798-1831)
Captain, 64th N.I. bapt. Sedgehill Wilts, 19 August 1798
Cadet 1817 Ensign (?)
Lieut. 21 August 1818
Capt. 18 April 1829.
d Sloane St London : 3 MARCH 1831
Son of Robert CANDY




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Re: Will lookup at WSRO and CANDY baptism
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 June 23 18:51 BST (UK) »
Google Books:

Search: Candy East Knoll  (a few 'hits')

Book by James Silk Buckingham 1826

DEATHS:
Jan 27

Of the wounds he received at Bhurtpoor, in his 20th year, Lieut. CANDY, youngest son of the late Mr CANDY of East Knoyle, Wilts.

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University of Oxford, Joseph Foster 1888

CANDY, Charles, s Robert of East-Knoyle, Wilts, gent
LINCOLN COLL, matrix 8 May 1817 aged 16
B.A. 1822
M.A 1824
Vicar of Shottermill, Surey 1830-1884

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The Law Times, Volume 37 - Page 14

1862

IN CHANCERY, between John CANDY plaintiff and Hannah CANDY (INFANT) and Charlotte CANDY, Widow, defendants -
East Knowle and Chricklade, Wilts,

Valuable Freehold, Copyhold and Leasehold Estate.

TO BE SOLD by AUCTION,

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etc etc.