A simple one for you experts out there!

[Waxwing]

My deceased great uncle (my fathers mums brother) has a daughter, what is she to me? Thankyou.

[julia_pse]

second cousin once removed.

and you are her first cousin once removed.

why are those 2 different?  I got this from the chart on the Genes Reunited page, so blame them if it's wrong!!

Julia

[Mort29]

she would be your father's cousin, so your 2nd cousin.

sorry, 1st cousin once removed.

[Waxwing]

Hello Julia,

Thanks for that, much appreciated. Do you know where do they get 'first removed' from or am I a bit thick?? Thanks again.

Mark

[Mort29]

http://www.duerinck.com/consangu.html

[julia_pse]

Do you know where do they get 'first removed' from or am I a bit thick??

If you are thick I am too.  I have no idea how it works - I just copied it! 

One day I might study the chart properly to understand how it works, but at the moment I just look up the person I want and don't read around it.  Maybe someone else will come along who can explain it to us!

Julia

[Luzzu]

Its easy to get into a muddle with this kind of thing.  I do frequently.

"Removed" is used to indicate two people are from different generations. The words "once removed" mean there is a difference of one generation.

 

Luzzu

PS   It would be good if someone would explain why there are two relationships for the same people.  I think 2nd cousins have the same great grandparents.

[julia_pse]

"Removed" is used to indicate two people are from different generations. The words "once removed" mean there is a difference of one generation.

Great - an expert come to help us out!  Thanks Luzzu

PS   It would be good if someone would explain why there are two relationships for the same people.  I think 2nd cousins have the same great grandparents.

I would agree - it seemed strange to me too.

Julia

[Richard Knott]

To explain the difference in names: the idea is that you go across to the other line before you do the 'removing'. In other words, you do things in the order that they are written down.

You would go across to your second cousin (your great uncles grandchild) before going up a generation to them.

However, the other person would go across to their first cousin (your father) before coming down a generation to you.

They are one generation removed from your second cousin; you are one generation removed from their first cousin.

Having said that, I think a lot of people just use the lower number version for both relationships.

Richard