Toni*s (OH) Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[toni*]

i think a quick search of the shipping lists to Aus for any of the surnames listed in 1890 hoping they didnt travel as Ellen Ingram did in disguise or under an alias
so looking for

George Cullmer, Trew, Capsey, Loveday, Ingram and Mrs Wheeler.

was it Fred Culmer who went to Aus i see he wasnt charged

[toni*]

Ellen Franklin was born in 1822 (possibly late 1821)
Ellen Franklin bp.  25 Jan 1822
Father's  Michael Franklin cabinet maker
Mother's  Ellen Franklin
St Leonard Shoreditch Hackney
residence Long Alley
The child of Michael Franklin (a cabinet maker / carpenter) & Ellen nee Lander
(Ellen siblings bp’s. Henry 29 Dec 1817 Robert 7 Jan 1820 William 18 AUg 1824 George 19 Dec 1826
Harriet 25 May 1829 )


At some point Ellen married Samuel Wheeler and they had a daughter
Ellen Elizabeth Wheeler Sept qtr 1846 Poplar 2  349
They also had a son Harry
Ellen in 1851 with her husband and children, they had a servant then HO107/1582/   p 4
Death Samuel Wheeler Sep qtr 1858  Newington 1d 184
1861.RG9/247/137 p 10
Ellen Born Limehouse, living Haggeston, born around 1822.
Same Ellen in 1871, living Shoreditch now.
RG10/439/ 34 p 22.
By 1881 Ellen jnr had gotten herself involved with the Cullmers and had an illegitimate child Sydney Charles Cullmer b. 1880 (in 1891 Sideny [sic] is shown as Ingram)
1881 Ellen Francklin, still has son Harry with her and Sydney  Cullmer age 10 months grandson with her.
RG11/256/19 p 32;

Sydney Charles Cullmer Jun qtr 1880  Islington 1b  452 (son of Ellen Wheeler b. 1846 & Alfred Cullmer)
1891
29 ?Leaney St Battersea
Sydney Ingram Nephew 11 Scholar London in household of
Henry Wheeler Head M Bag Maker London and family
RG12/424/113 Pg49
Sidney in 1901
12 Pelham Row Wood Green
Boarder with the Snells
transcribed as Cummin looks more like Cummor
aged 21 Baker b. Islington
RG13;  1257; 120;  27.

[toni*]

Alfred Cullmer was born 1835ish
The child of Edward Cullmer and we think Annie Gardener Cole – certainly there was a marriage for Ed & AGC  EDWARD CULLMER     m Annie Gardner Cole 19 Apr 1830 All Souls St Marylebone – but we cant find Alfreds actual bp.
Ed & AGC had 2 children George Isaac & Annie Susan – there is also an older child Mary again we cant find a bp. for her and is  Edward just old enough to be her father ?
1841 St Anne Limehouse HO107/701/11 p 14.
was Alfred Cullmer born Devon or Dover ?
1881 Dover
1871 Devon

1851
3 Green Dragon Court, St Giles Cripplegate
Sarah Hale Head W 36 Shoe closer N K
Mary Hale Dau 12 Brighton
William Hale Son 4 London
Thomas Hale Son 1m do
HO107/1525/165 Pg4

Alfred Cullmer married Mary Hale (from Brighton) in 1857
23 12 1857 (q 1858) Islington St Paul Bunhill
Alfred Cullmer-full-bach- (a lab?)-Edward Cullmer-Carpenter
Mary Hale-B L M spinster-John Hale (Hall) Shoemaker
both of Banna/er Street
Wits. Joseph Corbett and (Enn Imber x her mark
By 1860 they had 2 young children Alfred jnr and we think Ellen Emily OR Rose
In 1860 Alfred was residing at 7 Hatfield Rd, when he ‘kidnapped’ young Emily Blackshaw and they lived as man and wife – Mary had already left Alfred by this time.
Alf snr should be in custody in 1861

In 1871 Jaywit found Mary Coleman with children Alfred & Rose – possibly Mary nee Hale
In 1871 Alfred was living with Ellen Wheeler jnr she was calling herself Ellen Cullmer and there were 2 children present George Cullmer b. 1866 & Frederick Cullmer b. 1867
(Who is the mother of George & Fred ? Mary had already left & Ellen I don’t think she was present because she had her child Sydney in 1870 and seemed to leave him with her mother )
1871......RG10 / 500 / 28 / 6
Alfred Cullmer, head,age 36, b Devon
Ellen wife, age 24, b Surrey
George son, age 5, b Middlesex
Frederick son, age 4, b Middlesex
Address....Sclater Street, Bethnal Green




Alfred Cullner birth registered Mar qtr 1860 Shoreditch  1c  203
Alfred jnr m. Eleanor Sampson Q3 1880 Shoreditch 1c 340
6th Sept 1880 St Leonard Hackney
Alfred Cullmer 20 Bach father Alfred Cullmer Portmanteau Maker
Eleanor Sampson 17 Spin father John Sampson Mariner
both at 53 Herbert Street
Wits.  Isaac William Ostern?  and Mary Cullmer.
1881, young Alfred and Eleanor are in Shoreditch.
RG11/394/86 p 1


1881 Mary Cullmer is living by herself
I think Mary could be on a couple of census returns as Culmer, 1881 and 1891.
She was born Brighton c 1836

1881 Alf snr is still with Ellen jnr , George & Fred
Alfred CULLMER  Head  M    46  b. Dover,  Leather Goods Maker   
Ellen CULLMER  Wife  M    36  b. Lambeth, Surrey, England       
George CULLMER  Son        15  b. Stepney, Leather Goods Maker   
Frederick CULLMER  Son        14  b. Stepney,  Doctors Errand Boy   
14 Wyatt Rd London, Middlesex, England
  RG11  0256 / 38  70

In 1888 Alf snr dies  (Deaths Sep 1888  Cullmer  Alfred  53  Shoreditch  1c 51 ) and Ellen has taken up with Warren Ingram 

[toni*]

George Culmer marries Jenney [sic] Onken,  Jenney born Jane 1864 d/o Henry
George Cullmer + Jenney Onken 2/6/1887 St John Bapt Hoxton.
2 June 1887 . Banns
St John Bapt Hoxton

George Cullmer 21 Bach- Bag Handle maker- 101 Brittainia Str-Alfred Cullmer-BHM

Jenney Onken 23 Spin-17 Gt Chart Str- Henry Onken - Publican

Wits:- Alfred Cullmer and Ellen Cullmer

Cannot find Jenney / Jane on census bar 1871 with parents
There is a death for Jane Cullmer in Watford in 1936.  Age at death is given as 72, which would fit for a birth in 1864 (as per marriage cert

[toni*]

Aliases :
Ellen Wheeler jnr  = Ellen Culmer Ellen Ingram (before she was married)  Lucy Ingram (1887 Alfred still alive, Ellen calling herself Cullmer.
1888 Alfred dies.
1889 Ellen calling herself Mrs Ingram.
1890 Marries Warren Ingram.)

George Culmer = George Franklin, George Wilson, Herbert Brown, George James

Frederick Culmer = (Fred) Frederick Wilson

Ellen Wheelr snr (Nee Franklin) = Louisa Corrie, Elizabeth Thornton, Elizabeth Franklin, Kate Cranley, Mrs. Hitchin

Warren Ingram – William or Charles (not 100%)

Frederick (William ) Whitehead - Fred English Fred Richards Fred Brown


i need to add a list of acquaintances

[toni*]

1890 Ellen Culmer marries Warren Ingram  Warren Ingram 33  bach Confectioner father John Ingram Lic Vic.
Ellen Cullmer widow 36 father Samuel Wheeler Gentleman.
25 May 1890 St Peter Hackney
abode 22, Church Road
Wits. Thomas (G looks like) Trew
          and Sarah Trew
(I wonder why Warren married Ellen?
She was 12 years older than him, he appears to be honest and above board until he tangles with the Wheelers.) – good point
1891 census  RG12;  451; 73;  2
HMP Wandsworth 34 Prisoner b. Belton Rutland
Warren Ingram

1891 census  RG12;  44; 157; 32;
Wormwood Scrubs
Geo Culmer 25 Prisoner b. Haggerston London

Warren 1901 probably
51 Whiskin St Clerkenwell
Susannah Smith Head Wid 49 Living on own means London Houndsditch
Warren Ingram Boarder S 36 Carman Rutland NK
RG13/255/84 Pg37
Thomas JOhnson  (member of slavage corps)says inthe court papers 'Mrs. Wheeler and her daughter, Mrs. Ingram, came to the house—on the Sunday, two or three days after, I saw the prisoner, I believe he came home to dinner—I was there, and Mrs. Wheeler and Mrs. Ingram were occupying the place, they had prepared dinner for his coming home' the prisoner in this case is Warren Ingram
Mrs. Wheeler is Ellen nee Franklin b. 1822 and Mrs. Ingram is Ellen nee Wheeler b. 1846 although she actually marries Warren under the name of Cullmer
Warrens death Warren Ingram 1934 age 76 Islington 1b 239


Same place (As Alf & Mary Hale) 14 9 1859
Annie Susan Cullmer (Alfs sister) + Alfred Urwin.

Thomas Geo Trew was sentenced to 5 years penal servitude for attempted arson at the same time as Ellen Wheeler, George Colmer et al.  (9th Feb 1891, Old Bailey)
He is witness at Warren & Ellens marriage 

[jaywit]

So Jenny's dad was a publican as was AML's dad.

[toni*]

phew   - that was my summary - does it make sense ?

[Spidermonkey]

Alfred Cullner birth registered Mar qtr 1860 Shoreditch  1c  203
Alfred jnr m. Eleanor Sampson Q3 1880 Shoreditch 1c 340
6th Sept 1880 St Leonard Hackney
Alfred Cullmer 20 Bach father Alfred Cullmer Portmanteau Maker
Eleanor Sampson 17 Spin father John Sampson Mariner
both at 53 Herbert Street
Wits.  Isaac William Ostern?  and Mary Cullmer.
1881, young Alfred and Eleanor are in Shoreditch.
RG11/394/86 p 1

I suspect the witness is Isaac William Osborn - wasn't he the husband of Rosina Sarah?