William Evans 1844/45 Mathry Pembrokeshire

[sal0257]

hello again Heywood

sorry for the delay getting back


Elizabeths father definately William Evans of Maerdy Rd Maerdy according to marraige certificate (2 dec.1889) and she gives her age as 24 years, so I work that out to be 1864/65 ...... she is consistant on census records with age and place of birth (unlike her hubby) so I think 1861 is too far off the mark isnt it? 

[Orielbenfro]

Did the mrge take place in Church or Chapel ??
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

[heywood]

Yes I think you are right at the moment to look for Elizabeth b 1864/5  with a William.
In lots of cases, the father is 'invented' if the birth is illegitimate but in this case you have her with William so we know she definitely has a dad.
She may,of course, have been registered in another surname if her parents married later.
It is so difficult with all these name which are so common- or popular.
Additionally, I suppose sometimes it is easier to give a place of birth which would be known rather than perhaps a small village or townland.
Oriel may be able to give guidance re Church and Chapel, because, again, that may help to identify a family.

heywood

[sal0257]

hi Orielbenfro
sorry for the delay getting back on this

Did the mrge take place in Church or Chapel ??
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

Ive asked the family but afraid no-one knows.  My mother in law didnt talk much about her parents. From what I can work out she didnt get on with her father and I think that her mother died when she was quite young
Sal

Im pretty sure she mentioned that her father was some sort of minister/preacher if that helps

[Orielbenfro]

hi Orielbenfro
sorry for the delay getting back on this

Ive asked the family but afraid no-one knows. 

Sal
In your posting of the 24th Jan (Reply 9) you state “William Evans of Maerdy Rd Maerdy according to marriage Certificate”.
If you look at that certificate below the date on the left hand side you will see printed “Married in the” followed in handwriting the Church/Chapel or Register Office followed by according to the rites and ceremonies of the ………….. by Certificate, or Licence etc.
This line will tell if non-conformist or Anglican.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

[sal0257]

thanks Orielbenfro 

It says married in the Register office .....   the next bit is left blank   .....  then, by certificate before me
                                                                                                                      William Jones Powell Registrar
                                                                                                            Stephen Lewis deputysupt.Registrar

[heywood]

well that's unhelpful of them   

Just looking back (again!) it's a coincidence that in 1901 William and Esther have a lodger Hugh Davies 37 yrs b Llanrian and 10 yrs before they have brother Hugh Evans 27 yrs b Llanrian. It probably is just that- coincidence with the names Hugh/Davies/Evans occuring as they do.

[sal0257]

hello again Heywood 

I thought that about the Hugh Davies / Evans link this is why I wondered if Hugh was born of the same mother as William, but Hugh Evans is to be found living with them on previous census'
there is always the possibility of a name change I suppose, Ive always maintained my husband came from dodgy stock 

[heywood]

I wondered that too as I think, without looking that there is quite a gap between chidren to Thomas and Ann.
I did have another look before I went out and couldn't find any more clues/ideas.
i just wonder if Elizabeth was illegitimate and perhaps William married her mother etc.
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere- was William a widower on his marriage certificate to Esther?

heywood