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Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« on: Saturday 16 January 10 21:23 GMT (UK) »
My Grandfather William was born in Glasshougton Castleford on 17 June 1899

Siblings - Catherine (Kitty), Alice, Elizabeth (Betty), Edith, George

His mother was Ellan Ann nee Rose
Father William born Sedgley in 1870

Siblings Thomas 1873, Mary 1875, John 1876, Paul 1879

Their mother was Catherine nee Morris
I have no reference to his father as the cencus of 1871 has her as head of house

They moved to Whitwood Castleford before 1891 where Catherine married William Churm and took her sons as Stepsons to him.

Ive seen notes posted by Plonker who is looking for info on Paul who I think was Castherines husband.
   

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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 January 10 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have some problems with the info above

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Father William born Sedgley in 1870

Siblings Thomas 1873, Mary 1875, John 1876, Paul 1879

Their mother was Catherine nee Morris
I have no reference to his father as the cencus of 1871 has her as head of house

1871 shows Catherine as unmarried with a question mark against it

The 1891 has the 4 boys you mention above but apart from Thomas - the others were born in Clifton Lancs but I cannot find an 1881 entry for them

There are no birth entries on freebmd for them in Lancs and no birth anywhere for a Paul Townsend 1878-1880

Births December qtr 1870
William Townsend Dudley  6c 84

This birth was been transcribed on West Mids BMD - www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk and I would recommend you buy a copy of the birth cert or contact the Registry office at Superintendent Registrar, Dudley District Register Office, Priory Hall, Priory Park, Dudley, West Midlands, DY1 4EU, UK.  They may be able to tell you whether he was illegitimate

There is no marriage between a Catherine Morris and a Townsend and no Catherine Townsend marriage to a William Churm

In 1881 - William Churm is married to Elizabeth and living in Pendlebury Lancs (where all his children were born)

Wife Elizabeth died in Yorkshire in 1885 aged 35 but 1891 has a 3yr old daughter Florence b Yorkshire
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 January 10 01:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the reply

1891 census has them at  75 terrys row whitwood castleford

Catherine looks to have Marries william Churmm after his wife died - maybe ?

There is also some same data under the thread for Paul Townsend started by username "plonker"

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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 January 10 01:45 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - don't know what you mean by chatroom

There is no William Churm marriage to a Catherine.  The 1901 census shows:

Catherine Churm 50  b Staffs - Dark Lane?  shown as married 
Florence Pride 12  - (birth reg shows Florence Churm) b Whitwood Yorks
Mary Pride 26 dtr married b Lancs Irlam Heights (nee Churm)
Honor Pride 2 g/dtr b Whitwood Yorks
Thomas Pride 1 month g/dtr b Whitwood Yorks
William Churm 23 b Lancs Irlam Heights
Samuel Churm 21 b Lancs Irlam Heights
RG13 Piece 4301 Folio 66 Page 9
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 January 10 01:49 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 January 10 02:10 GMT (UK) »
Marriage FreeBMD
Mar qtr 1888
Pontefract
William Churn
Catharine Townsend
9c 143

notice spelling -Churn-not Churm

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 January 10 02:12 GMT (UK) »
I can't find Paul Townsend (age 12 in 1891) in 1901 -but there is a death reg
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Paul Townsend
age 43
Sept qtr 1922
Hunslett
9b 479

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 January 10 02:30 GMT (UK) »
If Catherine Townsend was nee Morris -then this could be her in 1851

Highouse Lane Sedgley Staffs
Robert Morris Head M 28 Coal Miner Shropshire
Ann wife 31 Brickmaker Sedgeley
Job son 5 Bilston Staffs
Phile s daughter 3 Bilston
CATHERINE daughter 6mths Sedgeley
Mary Ann Townsend daughter in law 12 Sedgeley

HO107 2031 129

This is complicated - Robert Morris' step daughter (daughter in law) was a Townsend!!!!!

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Townsend William Castleford b 1899
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 January 10 02:46 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting - I need to sleep and get my head around all this.

I only picked up the marriage (nee morris) from some unconfirmed posting elsewhere that I need to refind and cross check

Excellent help - thankyou so much