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David Jenkins
« on: Sunday 24 January 10 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Please can someone help me find David Jenkins in 1861 and 71.
1841 shows him aged 50 with family, HO107/751/10/20/p11
1851 shows him aged 60, HO107/2453/163/p53
I believe his wife Ann died 1851, but I have David dying 1872
He is my GGGgrandad
Any help much appreciated,
Rob

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 January 10 19:33 GMT (UK) »
1861 near new Inn, Risca RG9/4025 folio 26 pg 10
David Jenkins head widower 61 collier b. Machen

he's aged well, but pretty sure it's him from the birthplace

1871 William House, Risca RG10/5351 folio 26 pg 30
David Jenkins lodger widower 80 collier b.Glam,  Michaelstone Vedw

age & occupation are ok, but birthplace is awry. But he's the only David Jenkins in Risca apart from a 5 year old.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 January 10 20:26 GMT (UK) »
wouldn't you know it, there's a baptism for a David Jenkins in both parishes, both 1792, father of one is Charles, your man has a son Charles, the other father is Edward, your man has a son Edward...

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 January 10 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Osprey.
1861 looks great, but I can't think how Glam M.V got into the act in 1871. His age is right, and likely location.
All other censuses have been consistant with birth as Machen, Mon. Even 1841 says born in county.
Kind regards,
Rob   


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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 January 10 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey,
I gather that Machen & Michaelston y Vedw (Fedw) are just 4 to 5 miles apart(as crow flies). Could the boundaries have changed for 1871 census?
How can we decide on the correct baptism?

Davids wife Ann was from Bitton, Gloucs; they probably married in her home town??
All the best,
Rob

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 January 10 22:20 GMT (UK) »
they may have married in Bitton, but the marriages for that parish at that date aren't on the IGI. There's more than one possible marriage in Machen

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/Machen-Parish-Record-Transcripts.htm

I can see baptisms for the sons but not quite matching the ages given in 1851
Edward - 1814, james 1818, Henry 1821, William 1824 & 1827, Charles 1829.
There's a possible daughter Elizabeth in 1811 as well, but she might belong to a different couple. I'd suggest looking for the marriage to see if a family member was a witness, but many of the marriages in Machen are witnessed by Joseph Watkins, parish witness or possibly parish clerk.

You could try working through the records for each parish, reconstruting each Jenkins family in the hope of eliminating possibles. Michaelstone y Fedw isn't complete as yet,  but more to come.

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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/Michaelstone%20y%20Fedw.html
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 January 10 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rob,

There does not seem be a marriage in Bitton Parish Church that matches this couple.  I checked both sides of 1812, so it looks as though they may have married in Wales after all.

Best wishes,
Elizabeth

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Osprey & Elizabeth, I'll have a go.
I suppose as in all hobbies, if it was easy it would be boring.
Best wishes,
Rob

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Re: David Jenkins
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 22:02 GMT (UK) »
hi folks,
have found two possible marriages in Machen for David Jenkins:
1. 19/10/1811 with Ann Harding
2. 18/07/1812 with Ann Jones

Is there any chance of finding baptism  in Bitton for either of these two Anns?
about 1789/91 according to censuses.

many thanks for your efforts,
Rob