Husborne Crawley baptism Thomas LEWIS 1813

[RichardK]

Hello - would some kind person be able to look up this baptism at Husborne Crawley from the IGI:
Thomas LEWIS, 1 Aug 1813, son of George and Mary Lewis

Partly I'm interested in this being a post-1813 register so should have address and father's occupation - and partly I'm wondering whether this is the same person as the Thomas son of George and Mary baptised there 17 Feb 1806, as there doesn't appear to be a burial for the first Thomas and there's a less than 9 month gap after 1 Aug 1813 before the couple's next child, Henry was baptised on 10 Apr 1814.  Similarly, this couple also had two Susan(nah)s on the IGI - one baptised 11 Oct 1808 and the next 25 Feb 1810, but no sign of a burial for the first.

Any help appreciated.

Regards
Richard.

[johnP-bedford]

From the Monumental Inscriptions of St Mary Magdalene, Husborne Crawley as transcribed by Beds FHS....

George Lewis husband of Mary Lewis, died 1st May 1857 aged 79..... & Mary Lewis wife of George Lewis died 1st May 1860 aged 84

I suspect these to be the parents of your Thomas.

Also mentioned are ....

John Lewis died 24 May 1888 aged 80 & wife Sophia died 23 Feb 1888 aged 80

These are John Lewis who married Sophia Sibley in HC on 20 Jan 1840. His father was Thomas.

George Lewis died 30 Aug 1891 aged 81 & wife Mary died 8 Mar 1901 aged 91

These were George Lewis who married Mary Bushby in HC on 12 Oct 1842. His father was also Thomas.

I won't be able to check the parish records at the Archives until next Wednesday - I'm busy elsewhere this week.

Regards John

[RichardK]

Thank you John - those are extremely helpful indeed.  Many thanks for looking them up.  If you are able to check the parish records next week that would be very kind.
Regards
Richard.

[seahall]

Hi Richard/John.

John I hope you do not mind me listing the information as
I have transcribed some of the records for the village.

Pg 2, No. 11
Augst 1st 1813

Thomas Son of George & Mary Lewis in this parish Carptr.

The other baptism is as below.

Pg 3, No. 19
April 10th 1814

Henry Son of George & Mary Lewis this Parish Labourer.

Sandy

[seahall]

Richard there are no other baptisms in the Parish Church
for George & Mary's chidren.

Sophia Sibley was not baptised until  Sept 11 1831.
Her parents were John & Mary.

Sandy

[RichardK]

Hello Sandy - many thanks for that, very helpful.  When you say those are the only two baptisms, I assume you mean in the book that starts in 1813 - the IGI suggests that there were another 5 children baptised there between 1806 and 1811.  Doesn't appear that there's anything suggesting that this is a completion of an earlier private baptism, so I suppose I'll have to conclude that either the couple did have two sons called Thomas but that I can't find the burial of the first, or that there were two couples called George and Mary Lewis in the village but one couple moved elsewhere without being buried at Husborne Crawley or appearing in the censuses there.

Many thanks
Richard.

[johnP-bedford]

- the IGI suggests that there were another 5 children baptised there between 1806 and 1811....

Richard,  These are extracted entries so these are valid baptisms - the PR transcript up to 1812 may provide further info such as occupation but it is not always present. I will check this out next week as well as the burials.  The NBI does NOT show any Lewis's for this period.

However there is burial of John age 84 on 24/10/1816 making him born 1732; he could be the John Lewis along with wife Elizabeth who baptised Elizabeth 11/12/1768 & Ann 11/11/1770. There is an Elizabeth buried 29/11/1807 with no age who could be John's wife or his daughter, who knows.

There is also burial of Thomas Lewis age 42 on 12/03/1818 (born 1776) who could be the father of George Lewis (died 30/08/1891) & John Lewis (died 24/05/1888)

Regards John

PS.. hello Sandy - I don't mind you providing the info, as you've already go it to hand.     

[bedfordshire boy]

The pre 1813 transcript has no additional information eg occupation, for the 1806-11 baptisms.

The Elizabeth buried 29 Nov 1807 was wife of John

David

[RichardK]

Thank you all for those.  I've now noticed a curious entry on the IGI for Thomas Arnold baptised 27 Jul 1777, son of John Lewis and Elizabeth - it's listed with Arnold as the surname, but given the parents' names it looks like Arnold was actually a middle name, and therefore fits reasonably closely with the Thomas buried 12 Mar 1818.

I'm forming the impression that there's one family who were descended from John & Elizabeth and another (mine) who were descended from George and Mary (who I know from the 1851 census were originally from Willen in Buckinghamshire, a short way over the border).  Whether or not the two families were connected to each other is unclear.

Thanks to you all for your help.
Richard.