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Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« on: Saturday 19 March 05 05:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for Elisha Henry Child born Q4 1846 in Birmingham to William and Ann Child.

The following entries in the census index all have the same references, and so are presumably in the same household

William Child, 27, male, head, married, Tailor, Staffordshire, Acton Furnell
Ann Child, 23, female, wife, married, Staffordshire, Clastill
Charles Child, 4, male, son, Warwickshire, Birmingham
Alfred Child, 7m, male, son, Warwickshire, Birmingham

The references are Birmingham piece 2058, folio 460, page 9, film 0332120

The details for William and Ann exactly match all my records, but Charles and Alfred never appear in them.  The implied birth year for Charles is 1847.  This closely matches the details for Elisha Henry Child, who I know was born to William and Ann in Q4 1846 (volume 16 page 328) in Birmingham, but he is not mentioned in this census index.  They had another son (Enoch John) in 1852 in Birmingham, so are likely to have been in Birmingham or the area during the census of 1851.

Would someone please check the references above to see if there is any mention of Elisha Henry Child.  Is Charles his twin, and Elisha was omitted from the index?  If there is no mention would you please check for any mention of Elisha anywhere else in the vicinity?

Thanks

Eric

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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 March 05 06:33 GMT (UK) »
The only other person in the household is

Ann Alford Lodger 57 Mar b Brockton Staff

There is no Elisha Child or similar anywhere in the index...Perhaps he appears under his middle name Henry for this census entry....It does seem a common practice to sometimes list people under middle name....Sorry Kris  :'(
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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 March 05 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Eric Dont Know what I was thinking there. This child Lists as Charles not Henry so not his middle name at all...I can C your family in 1871 ....Father lists as William 47 born Acton Trussell...Mother lists as Annie 44 b Old Hill Staff Elisha is 24 and has 7 siblings I had a look and there is no sign of a similar family cannot find any of the 4 persons listed in 1851 only your family...Let me know if u require this 71 entry...Kris  :D
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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 March 05 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Kris

Thanks for the very prompt reply.  Unfortunately the index I have does not show a Henry Child of the right age in Warwickshire.  Its a puzzle.  i know he used the name Elisha Henry later in life, so I think that rules out Charles being a nickname.  I think I must conclude that this is not the right household, even though all the details for the parents match.

Unless Elisha was with relatives outside this region.  I believe his mother came from Staffs, Old Hill.  Can you see any entries in the Staffordshire index?

Thanks

Eric


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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 March 05 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Eric I do not have Staff 1851 You would need to post on the Staff board for that but surely it must be of interest that none of the 4 people from this 51 entry seem to appear in the 1871 census...Still I know what u mean..there seems no reason why  Elisha Henry should be called Charles...could conclude the brother may have died as next down from Elisha is 1871 is Enoch J 19.....Kris
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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 March 05 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Kris.

You are right that I cannot be sure that the parents in the 1851 census are the same as "my" parents in the 1871 census (of which I already have the details), but the circumstantial evidence seems good.  Especially when you consider that I know "my" parents lived in Birmingham both before and just after 1851.  The only problem is the absence of Elisha Henry Child.  However, I will look elsewhere.

Eric

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Re: Elisha Henry Child, Birmingham, 1851 - census lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 March 05 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Good Luck Eric I will keep my eye on the Staff board and c if anybody finds him up there with Relis perhaps. Since both William and Ann are from Staff it is logical to wonder if he may turn up over the boarder...All the best with it Hope you find him....Kris  :D
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