Census lookup Perth

[jbidaho]

Can anyone help please with a census lookup in Perth, Scotland, for Joseph Sime, possibly with a son Joseph Sime, born 1850. 
Joseph Sime senior was possibly a warder at Perth Prison, so it could be that he lived in the prison.  Son Joseph was married in Poplar in London in 1881, but he's not on the Poplar census as far as I can see for either 1881 or 1891, so he might have been back in Scotland at that time.
I'd be grateful for any help!
Thanks
JB

[runningbear]

1841 census; high street perth

james...age 55...shoemaker
mary...age 50
john...age 15...app cabinet maker
joseph...age 15...app warper

all born perth


1851 census; perth

joseph...head...age 29...grocer
catherine davidson...wife...age 32...born kinnaird
elizabeth...dau...age 2
joseph...son...age 6 months
mary mccormack...sister...age 38...hand sewer...born crieff
janet mccormack...age 34...hand sewer...born crieff

all born perth unless stated otherwise


1861 census; 89 south street, perth

joseph..age 39..head warden in perth prison
cath davidson...age 40
elizabeth...age 12
joseph...age 10
jane...age 2

all born perth


happy hunting

Joe

[jbidaho]

Joe
I'm so sorry, I've only just seen this reply - years after you sent it! 

I'll add it into my information, thanks, and try to follow it up further!

Jan

[runningbear]

hi jan,

wonder if this is any good?

1851 census- 134 high st, perth

james...67...shoemaker
mary....64
christina...22

1861 census- 145 high street, perth

mary...72

1871 census- 89 south street, perth

joseph...prison warder
catherine
elizabeth...22...dye-worker
janet...12


1881 census- 89 south street, perth

joseph...59...prison warder
john mc call...baker
janet...22
catherine mc call...9 months




Joe

[jbidaho]

Thanks a lot. 

It's definitely the right family - Joseph was a prison warder!  I'll add it in! 

I've been searching for his wife Ada in Essex in torrential rain this week!  Perth is a bit further to go!

Jan

[runningbear]

hi pal,

info for anyone else who can help....

1901 census- 146 west ferry road, millwall, london

joseph...50...engineer
ada...37...born c1864 cressing essex
joseph...19...engineer
william...14...rope worker
john...12
kate...4
elsie...2

1891 census- 146 west ferry road

ada...28
william...4
john...2



Joe

[jbidaho]

Thanks for that.  It'd be great if anyone had some additional info!  We went to Rivenhall and Cressing churchyards.  Edward Tokeley seems to have been non conformist, so Parish records aren't complete for his side of the family.  I suppose I should post this onto the Essex side too!
Jan

[sonofthom]

You might be interested to know that there was a second family at 134 High Street Perth in the 1841 Census, that of my great x3 grandfather John Robertson a spirit dealer and publican. There were some additional families at this address in the 1851 census. Although I haven't looked at the 1861 census my family was still there in 1865 as this was where my great x3 grandmother died.

I was in Perth this morning, partly to check this address. Although many old buildings survive in Perth sadly this is now a modern British Home Stores. However as this is the main shopping street in Perth I am sure there will be Victorian images surviving in local archives - I'll try Perth museum sometime and see what I can find.

[jbidaho]

That's really good of you, thanks.

I've had a break from the tree for a bit, but information like this rekindles the spark!

Look forward to hearing from you

Jan