More Londonderry references in Fishmongers records

[pkincaid]

The following is a continuation of abstracts made by myself of Londonderry references in the Fishmongers Court Minute Books.  Previous abstracts were posted on this board at:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,360975.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,361132.0.html

Instead of breaking out pensions and leases from now on references will be abstracted in chronological order.

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LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 16 (Book N), 15 June 1837 to 8 October 1840.

p. 32.  15 June 1837.

A Lease to John Scott of Myroe sealed with the common seal of this corporation in open court.

p. 46. 1 August 1837.

To grant a donation of £20 to Mr. Brown's Chapel and a pension of one shilling and six pence per week to James McAfee agreed thereto.

p. 48. 1 August 1837.

Leases of lands in Ireland to David Cather, George Craig, Thomas Tedlie & John Duffy.

p. 50. 7 September 1837.

The surrender from James Rentoul to the company of lands in Ireland are respectively sealed with the common seal of the company in open court.

p. 66. 5 October 1837.

Also a freehold lease from this company to William Rentoul of House, lands at Browglascow in the north of Ireland for the life of Joseph Wilson Esquire late Prime Warden and in case of his death before 17 years for the term of 17 years from 1 Novr 1827.  Also a freehold Lease from this company to James Rentoul of house and lands at Farloe and Broharris in the north of Ireland for the life of said Joseph Wilson and in case of his death before 17 years then for the term of 17 years from 1st Novr 1827 are respectively sealed with the common seal of this company.

p. 98-99.  1 February 1838.

To grant a pension of 1s/ per week each to Shilah Kane and Nolah Mullan of Glack and Catherine Orr of Sistrokeel agreed to.

p. 165.  5 April 1832.

To grant to William Elder of Ballykelly a donation of £20 to enable him to proceed with his family to America the same is agreed to.

p. 201.  18 June 1838.

To grant pensions of 1s/6d a week to James Deveney of Carrikue aged 82 and Sarah Nicholson of Carnamuff aged 78.  Also of 1s/ per weel to Catherine Dougall of Gresteel aged 70, Martha Peddier of Gresteel aged 80 and Sarah Wilson of Carnamuff aged 62, the same is agreed to.

p. 292.  17 January 1839.

To make an advance of £20 at 5 per cent and interest to Samuel Erwin of Letterlogher on his completing his house to the Agents satisfaction.  ... To grant to George Davis of Maghremore £5 in addition to £30 before granted on condition that his house and offices be slated as originally intended the same are agreed to.

p. 320.  11 April 1839.

To grant a donation of £50 to Samuel Craig of Ned on his building a house and offices to the satisfaction of the Agent, agrees thereto.

p. 341.  20 June 1838.

To grant a donation of £20 to Owen Breeson of Glack towards a new House agreed thereto.

p. 446-447.  13 February 1840.

Donation of £20 be granted to Major Stirling towards erecting additional offices to his farm house.

Donation of £10 be granted to George Forsyth of Carnamuff for lofting his house.

That Mr. Sampson be authorized to treat with Scott of Ballykelly for the surrender of a small part of the field between the church yard wall and the road leading from Ballykelly to New Town Limavady at the North West corner thereof next the church yard and that a sum not exceeding £60 be granted to Mr. Sampson to be appropriated to building a house for Thomas Connor the Sexton of Ballykelly thereon and that a rent of 35.s per Annum be charged for the same being the same rent as he now pays for a house which the company have ordered to be taken down.

That James Hyndman Senr and John Morrison be respectively permitted to surrender their respective interests in their Mountain farms in Carnamuff.  That on such surrenders being made a least thereof be granted to James Hyndman junr at the present rent and Tythe on the condition that he break up at least 2 acres annually.  That £60 be advanced towards erecting a house he paying £3 additional rent for the same and that Mr. Sampson be directed to pay the £60 on the house being completed to his satisfaction.  And that a donation of £20 be granted to John Townly of Termacoy to enable him to build a comfortable house according to the Companys plan; being read and considered are respectively agreed to.
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[cyclamen]

For those of us researching in this area these extracts make very interesting reading. Thanks for taking the time to post them. 

[pkincaid]

LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 16 (Book N), 15 June 1837 to 8 October 1840.

p. 457-458.  12 March 1840

A lease to Philip Connor of Mountain land in Ireland ... are respectively sealed with the common seal of this company in open court.

p. 521-522.  1 August 1840.

The Court considering the recommendation of the Irish Estate Committee the 10th ultimo as to granting a lease to Samuel Limerick viz.

That if he will build a substantial house to the satisfaction of the Companys Agent according to the plan transmitted by him laying out not less than £145 on the same a lease be granted to him from the time of the erection of the said house for 31 years with the life of the Prime Warden at the present rent of £4.10. per annum

A letter from Mr Sampson the 25th ultimo stating

The resolution of the Committee granting a lease of 31 years and the life of the Prime Warden to Samuel Limerick on his completing his house according to a plan and estimate submitted to the Company has be read to him -  he has informed me that he will prepare the materials this year and commence to build early in the following spring

being read and considered Resolved that a Lease be granted to Samuel Limerick accordingly.


LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 17 (Book O), 12 November 1840 to 17 June 1844.

p. 49.  14 January 1841.

To grant to Robert Thompson of Carnamuff a donation of £30 towards raising and new slating his house on his completing the same to the Agents satisfaction.

Also To grant to John Townley Junr of Dunbrock a donation of £15 towards building a barn on his completing the same to the Agents satisfaction.

Also To grant to Catherine McCurdy a donation of £20 to assist her with her family of 6 children to proceed to America the same are agreed to.

p. 70-71.  25 March 1841.

To grant £15 to George Forsyth of Carnamuff to assist him in building a barn.

To grant £15 to William Reid of Barnakelly for a like purpose he paying 10/ per annum additional rent.

To grant £15 to William Tedlie of Killylane for a like purpose he paying a 10 s./ per annum additional rent.

To grant £25 to Samuel Erwin of Letterlogher towards rebuilding his house he paying 20/ per annum as additional rent.

And To grant £15 to John Eakin of Carnamuff towards building a barn being read and considered are severally agreed to.

p. 100.  10 June 1843.

To grant £10 to Daniel Gould to emigrate the same is agreed to and it is ordered accordingly.

p. 110.  8 July 1841.

To grant a donation of £10 to Robert Thompson of Tirglasson to emigrate agreed thereto.

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LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 17 (Book O), 12 November 1840 to 17 June 1844.

p.  170.  11 November 1841.

That it be recommended to the Court to sanction the advance of £10 made by Mr Sampson to the widow McCann on her emigrating the same are respectively agreed to.

p. 215.  14 April 1842.

To grant £2.10 to Catherine Cartan of Ned to enable her to emigrate and £12 to Mary Loughery to enable her with her 7 children to join her husband in America provided the cotter houses of James Cartan and the said Mary Loughery be pulled down but

That such recommendations do not form precedents on similar applications but that each case shall be decided by the Committee upon its own merits agreed thereto.

p. 243.  20 June 1842.

To grant £15 to James Loughery of Dunbrock without interest towards building a barn.

To grant £10 to Catherine Watt of Tullyhoe towards roofing her barn she paying 10/ per annum additional rent.

To grant £10 to John Porter of Gresteel to slate his office houses he paying 10/ per annum additional rent.

To grant £15 to John Scott of Killycor without interest to assist in rebuilding his office houses.

To grant £20 to Samuel Creswell of Nedd to build a barn and stable he paying 20/ per annum additional rent.

To grant £15 to Jane Parkhill of Dungullion to slate her barn she paying 15 per annum additional rent.

agreed thereto.

[pkincaid]

More references abstracted by Peter A. Kincaid of Fredericton, NB, Canada.

LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 17 (Book O), 12 November 1840 to 17 June 1844.

p. 346-351.  10 November 1842.

The Court considering the recommendations of the Irish Estate Committee the 3rd instant in relation to the poor.  It is ordered That while as a General rule no new pensions be granted, the late pensions and the Quarterly stipends heretofore granted to persons in considera[tion] of their giving up their houses for improvements be revived from the 1st instant during the pleasure of the Court but that Mr Sampson be instructed in exercising the discretion[ary] power heretofore confided to him by the Committee of relieving the casueal poor in small sums to take every opportunity of recommending all fit objects whether on the present list of pensioners or not to avail themselves of the benefit of the New Poor Law.

The Court also considering the recommendation of the Committee on Captain Stirlings memorial for assistance towards repairing his barn and outhouses It is ordered that upon his repairing the buildings as mentioned in the estimate to the Agents satisfaction he be allowed a grant of £50 and that the sum of £100 be also allowed to him he paying 4 per cent per annum as an additional rent on the latter amount.

The Court further considering the recommendat[ations] of the same Committee on the following Memorials viz

Isaac Ramsay of Broharris for assistance to roof his building estimate being £33.1.6

William Robinson of Ballykelly praying some compensation for the loss (about £40) arising by the flooding of the Ballyholly River in January 1841

William Reed of Termacoy for assistance towards building a barn the Estimate being £45.1.4.

John Townley of Termacoy for assistance to floor his new house and to build office houses Estimate being £53.12.6.

John Quigly of Carnamuff for assistance to build a barn 29 ft by 18 ft and to raise a cow shed and stable 36 feet long Estimate for both £53.5.0.

Alexander George of Carnamuff for assistance towards building a barn 24 ft by 19 ft Estimate £39.10. and for an allowance for a road cost £6

John Eakin of Carnamuff for slates for a new stable he intends building

James Magenis of Carnamuff for assistance to reclaim his land, has reclaimed 9 acres and had £60 to build his house

Robert Thomspon of Carnamuff for assistance to build a new barn Estimate £50.13.0.

James Hyndman Junr of Carnamuff for assistance to build a barn and office house Estimate £42.15. and stating he had reclaimed in two years 10 acres of land

Patrick McGinnes of Carnamuff for a donation of £5 towards making a road to his land

Patrick McCloskey of Dunbrock Schoolmaster, praying for some allowance for loss incurred by removing from his former residence and by exchange of his land and for expenses incurred in building

Office houses 46 feet long by 18 feet wide which loss and expences he averages at £100

Isaac Connor of Sistrokeel praying the Company to assist him in making a new road of 66 perches long cost about £13.4. to enable him to break up more of his unreclaimed lands And

James Connor of Sistrokeel wishing to be allowed to alter the course of the River so as to protect his land estimated expence about £10 also for assistance towards building a barn 24 ft by 19 Estimate being £29.

It is ordered that on the undermentioned persons completing their respective works to the Agents satisfaction the following grants be made viz

{Abstractors note: in the left margin were added notes which I have placed at the end of the relevant entry in brackets}

£15 to Isaac Ramsay of Broharris for slating his barn he paying 15/ per annum additional rent (not pd ant order 11 Nov 1852)

£15 to William Reed he paying 15/ per annum additional rent (see Co. 9 Jan/51. fol. 4)

£30 to John Townley of Termacoy he paying 30/ per annum additional rent (paid 24 Aug. 1844)

£15 to John Quigley free as he pays interest on £60 (paid 14 Oct. 1843)

£10 to John Eakin of Carnamuff free he having broken up 29 acres of Mountain Land (paid 27 Nov. 1843)

£20 to Robert Thompson of Carnamuff he paying 20/ per annum additional rent (See Co. 9 Jan. 1851 fol. 4)

£15 to James Hyndman of Carnamuff Junr free he paying Intr on £60  (paid 8 May 1843)

£5 to Patrick McGinnis of Carnamuff free (paid 28 OCt. 1843)

£5 to Isaac Connor of Sistrokeel free (paid 28 Oct. 1843)

£15 to James Connor of Sistrokeel he paying 15/ per ann: additional rent (see Co. Bk. R. Fol. 218)

£15 to Alex: George free, as he pays interest on £60 but he to make the road mentioned in his memorial at his own expense (paid 3 Nov 1842)

That the following donations be made viz

£20 to William Robinson as a compensation for his loss And (paid 28 Jany 1843)

£20 to Patrick McClosky for building the office houses (paid 14 Dec. 1842)

That £20 be advanced to James Maginis he paying interest at the rate of 5 per cent per annum & repaying £5 yearly (advanced and since repaid)

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LDS Film # 1966804

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 17 (Book O), 12 November 1840 to 17 June 1844.

p. 346-351.  10 November 1842 (continued from last post).

The Court also considering the recommendations of the Irish Estate Committee the 7th instant on the following memorials alluded to in the appendix to the report of the late Deputation to Ireland with the recommendation of the Deputation on each It is ordered That on the respective parties completing the works mentioned in their separate memorials to the agents satisfaction they be granted the amounts set against their names as under viz

{Abstractors note: the following were in columns which are separated here by an added ;.  Again, notes were in the left margin which are place here in brackets at the end of the relevant entry}

Philip Connor of Sistrokeel for a new Road and for allowance for ditching; £5; free for the Road (paid 14. Oct. 1843.)

Brian Breeson of Sistrokeel praying assistance towards roofing new buildings in the yard; £25; free (paid 20. Dec. 1844.)

Patrick Kane of Loughermore for assistance towards building a barn 28 ft by 15 ft; £15; free (paid 30th Oct. 1843)

Thomas Kane of Loughermore for assistance towards building a barn 26 ft by 19 ft the estimate being £38.15.6; £15; free (paid 30th Oct. 1843)

Alexander Mullan of Glack pray[in]g and advance of £60 to build a house he paying £3 per annum interest; £60; at 5 per cent per annum (paid 23 Jan. 1843)

James Creig of Ballymaclenaghan praying the Companys consideration of the improvements made by him; £15; free on account of the improvem[en]ts made by him (paid 28 Feb. 1843)

David Eakin of Letterlogher for assistance to build a barn the estimate being £42.10.6; £15; free (paid 3. Nov. 1843)

Thomas Carland of Coolnacoopagh for assistance in roofing his house and stating he had built a house on a farm occupied by his son in law & that he had also built a flax Mill at an expence of £120 without assistance; £10; free on account of the house built for his son in Law & £20 more on his now roofing his own house (£10 paid 16 Feb. 1845)

Joseph Devin of Mulderh for assistance to build house and offices on his own land the Estimate being £69.7.6; £30; he paying £1 per ann: as additional rent and taking down the old houses ha? the materials (paid 7 Nov. 1849.)

Alexander Morrison of Gresteel for assistance to roof his offices Estimate about £20; 15; he paying 10/ per annum as additional rent

James Caldewell of Magremore for assitance towards building a barn estimated at £40.1.-; £15; he paying 10/ per annum as additional rent (paid 30th. OCt. 1843.)

George Cochrane of Killylane for assistance to roof his barn 45 ft by 20 ft Estimate £29.14.10; £15; he paying 15/ per annum as additional rent (paid 30th. Oct. 1843.)

Alexander Sloane of Killylane for assistance to build stable and cow house the estimate being £39.12.; £15; he paying 10/ per annum as additional rent (paid 3 Oct. 1843.)

James Caldwell of Killylane for assistance towards building a barn Estimate cost £40.4.; £15; he paying 10/ per annum as additional rent (paid 17. Aug. 1843.)

The Court also considering the following recommendations of the Committee the 7th. instant viz

To grant a further loan of £1-- at 5 pr cent to G O Mullan of Glack to enable him to relaim his mountain land, the £20 due on the former loan to be deducted and he to repay the loan now advanced by instalments of £10 per annum (adv. & partly (1851) repaid)

To grant a loan of £20 at 5 per cent to George Kane of Loughermore to enable him to continue the reclamation of his Land he repaying the same by instalments of £5 per annum (advand & repaid)

To grant a donation of £10 to Patrick Hafferty of Loughermore for a road made thro' his farm (paid 21 Jany. 1843.)

To grant a donation of £20 to Thos Tedlie of Killyland in consequence of his having me with many severe losses in cattle on his paying the arrears of his rent (paid 28. Jany. 1843.)

To allow Hugh Swan of Drumcovit £20 on his paying the arrears of his rent £15 thereof heing for the draining done on his farm and £5 for an alleged rent of £1 per annum for cotters residing on his

Farm such allowance however being on the full understanding that nothing will be hereafter allowed for the said alledged rent of £1 per annum And

To grant a donation of £15 to Robert Guthrie of Gresteel to assist him to slate his office houses on condit[ion] that he sets off an adequate Garden for his Cotter

agreed thereto

[Ray1969]

The information you have unearthed in regards to the fishmongers company is very interesting as i am from Ballykelly and a lot of my ancestors are from the townlands mentioned. I was wondering if you have exhausted these records in so far as references to families living in townlands in tamlaght finlagan and have you heard of the Gage papers i beleive he was one of their agents at one time. I am principally researching Logue McLaughlin McGuinness Canning Carton McCann amongst others.

[pkincaid]

No I did not exhaust these records.  The LDS film no. I noted above was the last film no. I posted information from.  I can't recall if I exhausted that film (I'd have to dig for my notes).  Regardless, the records continue in other films.  I have it on my back burner to continue on with the records.  In my opinion, these are a great source for the Ballykelly area. 

I believe that many years ago I went through the Gage papers available through the LDS family research centers, but I did not find them helpful to me.  At that point, my interest was only in Kincaid references.  I was not thinking of the general Ballykelly area.

[apthorpea]

Thank you for the posting they make interesting reading. A lot of the Townlands you mention had my Reilly’s living there at the time.