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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 27 February 10 21:52 GMT (UK) »
http://www.huguenotsociety.org.uk/library-and-archive.html

This is the library details Ben. I do think they charge a small fee for non students or Huguenot Society members, but they do hold later charity records there covering the 1750's. I keep meaning to get down there and try and view them for my own ancestor Francois Bellenger who came to England more or less same time as Francois Fradin. If I remember rightly your Francois may have gone to members of the Fradin family already in London, so might not have needed any charity payments, but still worth looking all the same never know what info you might find.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Richard

Thanks for the link. Francis and Elizabeth must have been together for a while before they married then. I wonder if the Annereau family connect in any way?

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben

They had a few more kids baptised at the Artillery, and were among their parishoners who were amalgamated into Threadneedle Street when it closed in the 1780's, shortly after the death of Jacob Bourdillon who was the minister there for over 50 years.

No clues as to where they came from but a Susanne Morin is godmother to another of their daughters there in Sep 1766.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Aha...checked the French Hospital Records. The parents of the girl Francois Fradin and Elizabeth Morin stood godparents to, Jean & Marie Annereau, were also first generation refugees from Mouilleron in Poitou. Marie's maiden name was Paillat and when she applied to the hospital in 1796 she gives her adress as the home of her cousin 'Rivalin'.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London


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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Richard

Wow that is good. So the Annereau's came from Mouilleron as well.

Suzanne Fradin was born in March 1765 in Spitalfields the daughter of Francois and Elizabeth Fradin nee Morin and she wed a Dennis Helsdon in 1784 in St Dunstan Stepney and they then lived in Bethnal Green.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Ben the parish records for Mouilleron are now online. I don't think they were last year when we went through the Moncoutant records for the Fradins.

http://www.archinoe.net/cg85v6/etatcivil.php

Unfortunately though there is a big gap in the registers 1714-1737, which is probably the era you need (typical eh). But yes I'd say likely they were close relatives of the Morins.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Richard

Wait a minute - I just remembered Francis Fradin was from Moncoutant not Mouilleron. Jean Morin was and he was reconnaisanced in 1717 in La Patente Spitalfields.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 27 February 10 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ben

Yes that's how I remember it the Morins were of Mouilleron. I think theres fair enough evidence there to say the Rivalets, Annereaus and Morins all came from there and were related, through blood and/or marriage.  You might find Jean Morin in their parish records online, though it depends, as you'll remember from the Moncoutant records they only start appearing openly in the Catholic registers, often in the early days with disparaging remarks, i.e Calvinist heretics or born of a concubine, from around 1710 ish.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 27 February 10 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have found a few Morin baptisms but up to 1704 and no Jean yet. He joined the church in London in 1717. A Jeanne daughter of Pierre Morin was found as was a son of Jacques and Judith Morin. A Jacques Morin was a witness to Jeanne Morin's baptism.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain