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1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« on: Friday 26 February 10 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Greetings;
   I am looking for any information available for Joseph Charman and Mary Bourn ... married in June 1839 in Steyning ?
I got this from the wedding certificate but now I can't go further as I don't have access to Parish records or Census records.
Any help would be appreciated ...  thank you.
Charman/Sharman , Prior , Druce ,
Sillito , Morton , Grey, Webb

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 February 10 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello have you dismissed this one on 1851

1851 @ Ship Street New Shoreham Sussex    ref HO 107/1047 image 47
Joseph Charman  Head Marr  33 Oyster Merchant              Born  Sussex Slinfold/Hinfold
Mary                     Wife           36                                                        "     Balcombe
Pamela                 Dau            11                                                        "     Horsham
Joseph                 son              9                                                         "     Brighton

I couldn't see them on 1841
Haven't looked further than 1851 in case wrong family
What do you think

Pam
Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 February 10 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Me again by chance I looked for Pamela/Pamelia and Joseph

BMD  Pamelia Charman  4th Qtr 1839 West Sussex  Vol 7 page 323

 "      Joseph  Charman  2nd Qtr 1842 Brighton         Vol 7 page 253

Pam
Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 February 10 21:05 GMT (UK) »
On Marriage cert it will give both Fathers names and whether alive or deceased.
By knowing those may be able to find Joseph and Mary's parents as they may be living with them on 1841

Pam
Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 February 10 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Greetings;
       Yes they are the Joseph and Mary I am looking for. I have the marriage cert and Joseph's father is James and Mary's is John.
I don't  have any access to parish records or census records.
Charman/Sharman , Prior , Druce ,
Sillito , Morton , Grey, Webb

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 February 10 01:18 GMT (UK) »
here they are in 1841(possibly)
HO107/1123/5/6/5
joseph charman age 25. occ. baker
mary charman age 25
pamela charman age 1
living at;warwick street,brighthelmstone,sussex
reg.dist; brighthelmstone
all born in county

occupation different?
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 February 10 01:24 GMT (UK) »
have found the son joseph in 1881 if you want census entries for him
he is married to an emma living in lambeth he also has a daughter pamela
pamela later marries a charles henry godden in vauxhall on the 16th march 1892
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 February 10 01:41 GMT (UK) »
finally found joseph in 1861
age mistranscribed as 14
1861
RG9/603/55/20
maria welling age 39. b. horsham. occ. oyster dealer(wid)
william age 12. b. shoreham. son
richard age 9. b. ditto. son
nelson age 7. b. ditto. son
ann maria age 5. b. ditto. daughter
eliza emma age 3. b. ditto. daughter
then in the same house but seperate
joseph charman age 41. b. horsham. occ. fisherman. lodger(wid)
joseph charman age 19. b. brighton. occ. cordwainer. lodgers son
living at;high street,new shoreham,sussex
reg.dist;steyning

there are 2 possible deaths in steyning that might be josephs wife mary
1 in apr qtr 1851 and 1 in oct qtr 1856
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
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Re: 1841 - 1871 Census 'Look Up' - Charman/Bourn
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 February 10 01:50 GMT (UK) »
by 1871 josephs occ has reverted back to baker
he is now the head of the house and maria wellings who was head of the house in 1861 is now down as lodger
1871
RG10/
joseph charman age 51. b. horsham. occ. baker. head(wid)
then seperate but in the same house
maria welling age 49. b. horsham. occ. charwoman. head  lodger(wid)
william welling age 22. b. shoreham. occ. sailmaker. lodgers son
richard welling age 19. b. ditto. occ. plasterer. lodgers son
margaret welling age 21. b. horsham. lodgers daughter
living at;high street,shoreham,sussex
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn