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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Yeah, that's my Grandma. On the 1909 marriage certificate for Margaret Mcdonald and Patrick Kelly, it states that Thomas Mcdonald was Margaret's father and that he was a quarryman, and that Michael Kelly was Patrick's father and he was a farmer. I don't know if they (Michael and Thomas) came to England. I've seen a 1911 census entry and Margaret and Patrick are listed as living in Gateshead but being from County Derry, Ireland.
On my Grandma's birth certificate, it says she was born in Abbey Street, Gateshead and that her father, Patrick, was an Innkeeper's barman.

I know Grandma had two brothers, Jack, or maybe John (1912) , Frank, and a sister, Hilda. They're all dead.

That's why I want to find out about my family. They all died before I was born or when I was young.

And that's all I know, other than my dad, Dennis who was born in 1940. We don't speak so I can't ask him! I don't know what my Grandad was called but I have Edward or Daniel in my head, but then again, I could be mistaken.

Any help in pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:33 GMT (UK) »
In  1911
just Patrick and Margaret
Patrick 32 born co Derry
Margaret 33 born Gateshead
interestingly, they say they have a child and its still living but not with them

perhaps thats the secret...
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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Ann E Kelly married Frederick T Turnbull  June Q 1940 Gateshead.
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks you two! jc26red, where did you get this info from and how can I look into it further?



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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:42 GMT (UK) »
In  1911
just Patrick and Margaret
Patrick 32 born co Derry
Margaret 33 born Gateshead
interestingly, they say they have a child and its still living but not with them

perhaps thats the secret...

yes...i had already seen that,,,,according to free bmd,the first child is annie,,but she wasnt born till 1913,,,so who is the child born to patrick and margaret who is not on the 1911 census ?
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 10 March 10 23:44 GMT (UK) »
This is so exciting. I should really go to bed but I'll be up all night trying to look into this now!

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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 11 March 10 00:05 GMT (UK) »
this is only a possibility?????????

 
1881 ------ 97, Maxwell St, Westoe 
 
 RG11      Piece: 5014      Folio:  26      Page:  45         
 
MC DONALD, Thomas Head Married  M 24 1857 Coal Miner
 So Shields
Durham 
MC DONALD, Marion Wife Married  F 22 1859
 Newcastle on Tyne
Northumberland
MC DONALD, Margaret Daughter Single  F 1 1880
 So Shields
Durham
MC DONALD, Bridget Mother Widow  F 60 1821
 Ireland


 
 
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 11 March 10 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm there is a tree on An**try - this might be what she didn't want you to know.......... :-\

Shows Annie Eileen Kelly married to someone ROBSON c1930
2 children

Then 1934 marrying Edward TURNBULL

I can't find a Robson marriage as yet.

Annie
Phillips Galway>NZ
Flanagan Queens County>VIC>NZ
Bullock Bristol>Aus
Bury Shropshire>Aus
Maher Kings County>Aus
Pavletich Croatia>VIC>NZ
Delargy  Antrim & NZ

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Re: Family Secret - Turnbull/Kelly Gateshead
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 March 10 00:20 GMT (UK) »
possible birth refs

Births Sep 1879     
McDonald  Margaret     S. Shields  10a 733   
McDonald  Margaret     Durham  10a 383
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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