Harper in 1861 Census

[Lance Matthews]

Could some kind person help me find the Harper family, in 1861. I have them in Middlesex in 1851, then they disappear.

William Harper – head – 35(1816) – Gardener – Born Watford
Ann Harper – wife – 30(1821) – born Stepney
Ann Harper – daughter – 2(1848) – born Camden Town
Will Harper – son – 1 – born Harrow Road

The daughter married in Cheltenham, in 1869.

[CaroleW]

Hi

You may want to bear this info in mind if nobody finds them for you in 1861

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403508.0.html

The following parts of the censuses for the London area are known to be lost.

1861

MIDDLESEX

RG9/145 part of Islington East
Only 34.7% surviving of St George's Hanover Square with nothing for the Belgravia sub-district surviving; Chelsea sub-districts 1 (RG9 30-32) is 92.8% complete, 2 (RG9 33-35) is 89.2% complete, 3(RG9 36-39) is 95.1% complete and 6 (RG9/30 ff.143-152), is missing a number of streets.

Hampstead is the most complete London and Middlesex parish for the 1861 census with 98.5% surviving.
See http://tinyurl.com/lvu5gx for an example of individual streets or parts of streets and places missing from one London district – Lambeth.

[Lance Matthews]

Thank you for this information, which may explaain why I cannot find any trace of this family in 1861.

[coombs]

Hi

Yes sadly many streets are lost from the London 1861 census. I am in the same boat as my ancestors are missing from the 1861 census. I knew where they would have lived but the street is missing.

Have you found them on the 1871 census?

Ben

[Lance Matthews]

I know that Anne Harper had maried in 1869, in Cheltenham, to John McKennedy.
Not sure where her parents/brother were, in 1871

[Eyesee]

Not sure if you have these

St Pancras
1849 Jan 21, Ann, d/o William & Ann HARPER, College Street W, Gardener, born 1848 Dec 12

Holy Trinity, Paddington
1850 Feb 17, William, s/o William & Ann HARPER, 3 Johns Mews, Gardener
1851 Sep 21, Robert, s/o William & Ann HARPER, 3 Johnsons Mews, Gardener

Possible marriage
St Marylebone
1848 Feb 1
William HARPER, full age, bachelor, Gardener, St Marylebone, father Edward Harper, Gardener
Ann HUGHES, full age, spinster, -, St Marylebone, father John Hughes, Printer
Married after Banns
Both made their mark in presence of John Clark, Eliza Clark

Ian C

[Lance Matthews]

Thank you for this information.

[Jasneath]

Hi there.

This family emigrated to Australia around 1852. I haven't been able to find the ship, but I have found them recorded in Melbourne. Sadly, there's no mention of Ann (born 1848), the daughter. I'd assumed she died during the voyage. Ann (nee Hughes) died in Melbourne on the 24th of May 1853. The following September William brought his two sons William (born abt 1850 - later known as Charles William) and Robert (born Aug 1851), to Hobart Town in Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania). They travelled on the Emma Prescott from Melbourne to Hobart. William Snr was my 3xgreat grandfather, and is buried here in Hobart, Tasmania. I am descended from Charles William.

I hope this helps!
Cheers :-)

[Lance Matthews]

Many thanks, most helpful.