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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 March 10 20:02 GMT (UK) »
1901 Irish census is due to come online (free) around June this year so if Charles isn't found on English one you might find him in Ireland then.
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 March 10 20:36 GMT (UK) »
If its of any help this is Charles photo.
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 March 10 21:34 GMT (UK) »
If its of any help,the back of the photo,Does anyone recognise this old studio?
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 March 10 11:39 GMT (UK) »
might be the photographer mentioned on the postcard/photo :

 Thom's 1914

  16 Henry Street Dublin, Bobs photographer

  the address is shared with O'Dwyer merchant tailors.



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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 March 10 10:02 GMT (UK) »
The is/was no regiment called 'East Lancashire Fusiliers'.  The cap badge looks like East Lancs.  The Lancs. Fus. had the usual Fusilier grenade shape. 
In general, there was no requirement for anyone to join their locally-based infantry battalion and some chose to sign on far from home for a variety of reasons.  In any case a Lancashire regiment or battalion had its depot in the county but its battalions could have been anywhere.

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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 21 March 10 10:12 GMT (UK) »
That uniform looks remarkably like a "Kitchener Blue"...No breast pockets, and is the wrong colour for Khaki, wrong colour and hat for fatigue wear, and wrong for patrol dress...But the main thing is, no breast pockets...

He has what looks like the QSA medal, which looks to have been painted on the negative as an after thought..

Perhaps he was in the 1st bn earlier, left and rejoined for WW1, and the annotation is from a later date?
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 March 10 13:32 GMT (UK) »
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Thankyou for your reply,i did question the ribbons on Charles uniform myself it just didn't look right ,i know he received the 15 Star,Victory,British medals shown on his medal record dated 28-4-1915

The uniform you mentioned what colour blue would it of been,i have tried to find out about the Boer war and felt abit disappointed that i wont be able to find out anything 
would you know of anywhere that i can search ,if he did get the QSA medal in the Boer war ?
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 March 10 15:26 GMT (UK) »
The uniform would have been a dark blue....They were often called Postmen!

Someone on RC holds some rolls for the QSA, you should put a request up on the main AF board for a look up.

A lot of men re enlisted into the army, as there was a promise of return to previous rank and pay for NCO's...Others did so out of a sense of duty.

If he did re enlist, his Boer War records would have been added to his new ones...Although you may strike lucky in WO97 which goes on line soon...You may like a trip to Kew to dig manually...Just in case!

This is why a number of Boer War records are missing, as because they had been lumped with the new ones, they were destroyed in 1940 by the dastardly Hun, and now only 30% survive...The "Burnt Series"
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Re: Enlistment puzzle
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 March 10 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: corisande on Tuesday 16 March 10 18:07 GMT (UK)
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Thankyou for your interest
8. His marriage cert would be worth having as it should give is father's name and address.
I have his marriage cert Charles married Ellen oshea on Jan 30th 1910
Charles Father's name William Best born Dublin who was (Decd )on marriage cert
mothers name Alicia,Charles and Ellen both of full age
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Pat
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