LoneyBones Second Chance Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[stonechat]

Hi
Joao~ is pronounced  Juan
where j is as zh in Zhivago or j in French joli
it rhymes with pao- bread- said the same as pain in French

[regross]

Stonechat.

Mm I also thought of Juan as an alternative and the combination of Juan Enos is very common in Azores. Note anothere variation of the surname could be Ignacio.

A google search was quite amazing and of course notreally helpful for that very reason.

Seems a bit like looking for  John Smith!!!

But at least there is a place and approx year of birth and parents names!!. Should make it easier.

Robyn

[majm]

Hi LB,

I've just posted on your NZ thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,446661.0.html

As there's possible NZ sightings for Emanuel Christian and John Innis on the same 1858 jury list for Auckland NZ,  with occupation as boatmen....   As that find doesn't help with finding their origins.   I've racked my grey matter over searching for their origins and can't think of any useful suggestions that have not been mentioned in this hunt.

Cheers,  JM

[LoneyBones]

I found that thanks JM 
I've followed through on every lead, I also posted on the USA board hoping that John and Manuel CHRISTIAN may have been on New England whalers before they went to NZ, but nothing is happening there at all. 

[LoneyBones]

Have just discovered, with help from JM, 2 John INNIS's and an Albert INNIS all living in West Queen Street, (Auckland?) all three on a jury list for 16 Feb, 1856. (Daily Southern Cross, Volume XV, Issue 1110, 16 February 1858)
This is not my John and his two sons, (since sons wouldn't be on jury duty aged 1 year and minus one year.  )  but could be my John and brother and father. 
Which would indicate John migrated there with his family, at least a brother and father, before 1851.
I don't think this rules out a whaling ship, especially since one John and Albert are described as "boatman", the second John is a carpenter. 
Looking for more info at that address, can't think if there would have been electoral rolls then...maybe business listings, post office listing or something. 
Was there a Portuguese quarter/community in Auckland then?
Thinking - thinking - looking - looking......

[Tephra]

Hopefully this weeks Scavenger Hunt will be a little easier........hopefully!!!

Good Luck and Good Hunting

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,447341.0.html

Barbara


As usual, this Hunt will remain open for any further information which may come in.

[LoneyBones]

Good grief...is it Tuesday night already. 

I do thank everyone who has helped me here so far, and hope you all continue to help. 
There's got to be something more out there to find....he's out there, just waiting to be found.

Leonie. 

[Erato]

Lots of California ship lists here:

http://www.sfgenealogy.com/californiabound/cbindex.htm

If he was on a whaler or other ship in the Pacific he may have been passed through San Francisco.

Inacio [= Ignacio = Ignatius] was more likely a given name than a surname, e.g., Inacio Lula da Silva.

[Erato]

Another thing:

The Portuguese naming system is like the Spanish one in that a person has two surnames -  paternal and maternal.  But in Portuguese, it is the maternal surname that goes first whereas in Spanish the paternal surname is first.   Usually Spanish speakers use just the first surname for ordinary, day to day purposes and use the full double barreled name only in formal circumstances where a complete name is required.  They also tend to chop off the second surname when they are in a place [say the US or some other English speaking country] where the convention is to have a single surname.  So, most Latinos in the US use just one surname and that would be the paternal one.  Presumably, Portuguese people, if they shorten their names, use the maternal surname.

So, if it turns out that Inacio is a surname, it is likely to be the maternal one.