Claygate and Thornithwaite

[Razzy]

Hi,
so far I have been able to trace my Grahams to Claygate.
Children were born in Thornithwaite, as well, the parish clerk made mention of a place called Jocks' Edge in Claygate.
I cannot find Jocks' Edge around Claygate. I have a feeling that Jocks' Edge might refer to the times of the Reivers.
Right now, I am trying to find where William Graham of Knottyholme and Agnes Armstrong were married so I can order another microfilm.
They started raising their family maybe with Francis, baptized in 1758.

So if anyone knows anything on both Jocks' Edge and Knottyholme, I would appreciate knowing.
The internet does not seem to have any information on either one.

Thanks,
Razzy

[walterc]

If it's any help, Knottyholme has been variously spelt more recently as Knittyholm and Nittyholm, with a photos on http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/333404 and also http://www.langholmpicturearchive.com/

WalterC

[Razzy]

Thanks Walter,
it is alot of help. So it seems my Grahams were born and raised children from this house, or is this a picture of one house in the village?
Maybe the house is not that old (1760s').
Again, I am thinking in terms being from Canada where buildings do not have the same longevity as in Scotland.
To find more information on this William and Agnes Graham (nee Armstrong) originated, what would I order as my Canonbie microfilm that I ordered does not cover this marriage, just the baptisms of the children.


Razzy

[HDMattinson]

There is a Knottyholm and a Nittyholm just to cause confusion. Knottyholm is a farmstead.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1176063

Howard.

[Ronbucks]

Hi Razzy,

There are quite a few IGI entries listed for births/baptisms in Canonbie using William Graham and Agnes Armstrong entered as parents. eg


Mary Graham christened 28 AUG 1763   Canonbie, Dumfries, Scotland

Ron

[Razzy]

Hi Ronbucks,
Yes and thanks. I believe I have all seven children from Francis in 1758, Thomas, Helen, Mary, Catherine, Agnes, and William in 1770, all in Canonbie parish.

What I do not know is where William and Agnes were married so I can continue my search   !
Apparently William and Agnes were not married in Canonbie even though the baptism register says he is from Knottholme (NE of Canonbie).

Razzy

[Ruskie]

Do you have the baptisms for all of their children? I'm thinking that perhaps one of them may mention where Agnes was from, so you could start your search for their marriage in her home parish.

Another thought .... have you checked Gretna marriages? http://www.achievements.co.uk/index.html (a lot to trawl through ....  )

[Razzy]

Hi Ruskie,
No I haven't checked Gretna marriages. I have found in the canonbie parish some marriages were 'rebuked' so that means they were married in Gretna and then the marriage had to be honoured but the church still wanted its' authority demonstrated.
Well the baptisms I found I wrote down if there are more than seven children I would not know where they were baptised. None mention where Agnes is from. The registrar just mentions where they are living in the parish at the time of the baptism.

Razzy

[Ruskie]

Hi Ruskie,
No I haven't checked Gretna marriages. I have found in the canonbie parish some marriages were 'rebuked' so that means they were married in Gretna and then the marriage had to be honoured but the church still wanted its' authority demonstrated.
Well the baptisms I found I wrote down if there are more than seven children I would not know where they were baptised. None mention where Agnes is from. The registrar just mentions where they are living in the parish at the time of the baptism.

Razzy

Oh - shame there's nothing on the baptisms ...