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Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« on: Wednesday 24 March 10 21:20 GMT (UK) »
I am back on the trail of my missing relative, Eleanor Wormwell (Heap), who I believed left England as a child with her mother Mary in the mid 1900s.
Although I originally thought the date would have been after 1905, I have uncovered a record for a "mrs Wormwell and girl" travelling from Brisbane to Sydney (arriving 19th June 1904). The vessel is named as the Innamincka. There are no other details given for Mrs Wormwell or the girl. Would anyone out there know if this vessel would have sailed from England (hopefully Liverpool) before her arrival in Brisbane?
This is a complete long shot for me, but, I am determined to try and solve the family mystery of Eleanor and her mum! ???
Thanks for any help
 Lancs-lassie x
Wormwell, Whitaker, Lancashire
Ellis, Flintshire
Stephens, Kent
Sherred, Devon/Kent

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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 22:50 GMT (UK) »
The Innamincka is not on the list of those ships sailing from the UK on FindMyPast.

On the image of the journey you quote,it does say that the SS Innamincka is of Adelaide.
So maybe it never came as far as the UK ?

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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carol for your speedy response. I subscribe to A***Y and just wondered if FindMyPast might show up anything. You are probably right that the ship may not have sailed from the UK (I am clutching at straws with this mystery really, the dates didn't quite add up either!)
Thanks again,
Clair
Wormwell, Whitaker, Lancashire
Ellis, Flintshire
Stephens, Kent
Sherred, Devon/Kent

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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Was your Mary Wormwell born c 1870? And lived around Naburn Yorks?

She appears to come back to the UK a few times,on An*****Y's UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960.

One time from Sydney and various places and another listing Egypt as the last place she lived.

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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 23:02 GMT (UK) »
I don't think you;d need a subscription to check out the ships that left the UK.

try this link

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListBrowseByShipStart.action

I think you'd only need an FindMyPast sub if you wanted to look at any records.

Carol
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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 March 10 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Carol. Yes, my Mary Wormwell was born 1871. I had seen these records relating to Naburn, York. I'm not aware of any family connections with Naburn and also wondered how she could have found the funding for so many voyages (she began her working life as a cotton weaver, and, at the time of Eleanor's birth, her address was the workhouse in Skipton Yorkshire!
Having said all that - we don't know what happened to Eleanor, she may have met and married a wealthy chap who could have helped to finance her mums trips!
I haven't explored the whereabouts of Mary's siblings - maybe they could have been living in Naburn.
Out of interest, did you think the "c/o Graham" was attached to the record we were looking at,and if so what do you think that could mean? ???
So many questions, sorry, I am just so frustrated at not being able to sort this mystery.
Kind thanks for your input,
Clair
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Ellis, Flintshire
Stephens, Kent
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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 March 10 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clair

Sorry I had to go to bed last night  ;D

I wondered about Graham,and thought it must havbe been a surname of someone she was due to stay with......maybe a married sister?
Of course the dates were 1928 and 34 by the time this lady returned,so anyone in the family could have easily moved there by then!

It's so frustrating isn't it?

Hope you find them both.

Carol
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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 March 10 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carol for wishing me luck in my search. I am going to try and explore the possibility of one of her sisters marrying a Graham but know it's probably a bit of a longshot! I also thought I could try and explore census avenues  for Mary (again)  in some of the areas mentioned on the passenger lists. One day it might all fall in to place - fingers crossed!
If I get to the bottom of any of it I will let you know.
Clair
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Re: Is this my "runaway mum" on the Innamincka?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 March 10 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Eleanor Wormwell

birth 23rd Jan 1898
 Skipton England 

Robert Wormwell
1870 
Mary Alice Heap
Eleanor Wormwell  3 Daughter

on a.c family tree

sylvia
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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